Group Builds

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For group builds ( if in the manner of Campaigns on Armorama ) then I'm in favour of a ribbon or title for those who successfully participated.

For competitions I think you need to be able to cover armour, aircraft, marine, other, and in novice, OOB, advanced, small scale, large scale, diorama etc. I don't think our membership is anywhere near large enough to support that at the moment. Give it time though.

I am in favour of some community type competition and have poached an idea used on another site my wife participated in years ago. Each Friday night ( or whatever night ) at a set time, one person sets out 20 questions on general knowlege on the topic ( in our case modelling ). One hour later all participants have to submit their answers ( works best if the posts with the answers needs to be approved so none are visible till all are received ). Prior to publication off the questions a set of the answer is provided to a non-participating mod who then decides the winner ( person with the most correct or closest to correct answers ). Winner gets a prize ( value $10-$20 ) and then must host the next weeks quiz and provide a prze to the next winner ( or pass on the prize to a substitute host ).

So it's not so much about winning as the winner gets something but the following week has to pass something on ( could be the same thing if it was unwanted ). It's more just having fun as a group.

No Competing,No Prizes
unless all you want to do is attract the Pros and their little army of supporters who come in grab off the goodies and never be seen again.

Been there,done that as they say with both modeling and sim racing. You'll lose people,not gain any.

I want to be friends with the community and not a competitor.
Tony Lee:)

Tony Lee wrote: No Competing,No Prizes
unless all you want to do is attract the Pros and their little army of supporters who come in grab off the goodies and never be seen again.

Been there,done that as they say with both modeling and sim racing. You'll lose people,not gain any.

I want to be friends with the community and not a competitor.
Tony Lee:)

Yeah seen that on Armorama with the Dragon MoM, the winners always seem to be some obscure Eastern European who never appears on the boards.

I don't mind prizes so long as there is fun involved and it's about the fun, not about getting something. At the same time I'm all for IRL competitions like annual IPMS type ones, but only if they allow for everyone to get involved and it would need to be a club event, not a forum event.

It could be obvious that people would simply join to win a prize, and surely they could be noted easily? It's a difficult one as a prize is always a good thing to give, but then again I can see the problems it would cause.

If we have prizes, then I could no doubt donate something from my ex-review pile.

Jim

Gary wrote: The trouble with a Kiwi build is all you Kiwi's (I only call myself a Kiwi when it suits me, like if England wins the World Cup I'm English and if NZ wins (yeah right) I'll wave the flag with the 4 little stars on it ) is that's all you build is Kiwi stuff, if you want to sell something on Trademe you add as used by the NZ Airforce or Army (which rules out anything modern or with guns on )
It's actually quite a good idea, specific but still with a wide enough option to keep most happy and being a Kiwi orientated site it's a good idea for a first GB.
Gary

Haha, I see a lot of those types of comments on TM auctions, and usually on versions we didn't actually use. I've actually come across very few modellers who just want to build Kiwi stuff ( and plenty who never have ). I keep saying I'm going to one day but never have yet.

Gary wrote: I have a nice set of decals for a Mk X Spit with some Kiwi bloke as the pilot apparently he's famous (world famous in New Zealand is the saying as I believe).
I know I rib you guys but it's one of the reasons I moved here, I feel that England has lost her pride but NZ has bucket loads to go round

I dunno, I went into Morrinsville the other day and the Police Station has a flagpole but no flag. I'm sure that's illegal. If not it should be. I still remember raising the flag at assembly every morning at school.

Bishop wrote: The great thing about a Kiwi build is that it can also be an ANZAC build. Did the Kiwis use German tanks?

Does this count ?

http://militarymodels.co.nz/2010/07/02/an-interesting-kiwi-tank/

A kiwi tank that became a german tank that became a kiwi tank.

Hi friends; so far I'm not against the idea of a GB if we're not separated in several categories; to make something that wouldn't be just "one more GB" I was wondering we could maybe compete within teams rather than individually but I don't see for now how it could be organized.

e-junkie wrote: Hi friends; so far I'm not against the idea of a GB if we're not separated in several categories; to make something that wouldn't be just "one more GB" I was wondering we could maybe compete within teams rather than individually but I don't see for now how it could be organized.

Perhaps a Group Build with a theme like 'Dogfight Doubles' could allow scope for collaboration between modellers (somebody builds an aircraft that served in air to air combat, somebody else builds an opponent of said aircraft). Is that similar to what you were thinking?

I'd be up for a NZ Group Build as it is appropriate for a NZ oriented modelling forum, not sure what I could do (I've already built a Skyhawk!)

Gary wrote: I like the idea, I could build my spitfire or buy a Scorpian off Ewan. Or I could make a diorama with the whole NZ navy done in 1/72 scale I should have it done by the weekend and it wouldn't take up much space.
But seriously the more I think about it the more I like the idea of a GB theme of NZ armed forces past and present.

What about a 1/24 diorama of the RNZAF Tactical Strike Wing ? All you'd need is some tarmac.

Perhaps a Group Build with a theme like 'Dogfight Doubles' could allow scope for collaboration between modellers (somebody builds an aircraft that served in air to air combat, somebody else builds an opponent of said aircraft). Is that similar to what you were thinking?

I'd be up for a NZ Group Build as it is appropriate for a NZ oriented modelling forum, not sure what I could do (I've already built a Skyhawk!)[/quote]

Not exactly; I was rather thinking of a collaboration between several modlers like for example one who does the aircraft, anotherone the tarmac vignette and maybe a third wo does the ground personal. That would certainly be fun but what I don't clearly see for now is how to assemble the whole stuff at the end of the day, thought that we're all separated by thouthends of miles. Thus good idea but quite difficult to organize.

Maarten wrote: what about a teleport machine?

yeap, why not?

BTW I've just checked out your marines Hornet heads on the Zone; you're a lucky guy, that's top class material. Must be a delight to paint on these

Not exactly; I was rather thinking of a collaboration between several modlers like for example one who does the aircraft, anotherone the tarmac vignette and maybe a third wo does the ground personal. That would certainly be fun but what I don't clearly see for now is how to assemble the whole stuff at the end of the day, thought that we're all separated by thouthends of miles. Thus good idea but quite difficult to organize.

Taking the idea a step too far: perhaps one builds the cockpit/interior, one builds the fuselage/hull, one does the wings/turret and the model doesn't get finished!

I like the whole idea of teams but as you say, it would be hard to arrange. Possibly all the elements of a diorama/vignette could be photoshopped together to show the finished collaboration as it would be intended?

Gary wrote: Why have it as a competition? How about one person does step one and then sends it on to person two who does step 2 etc etc. It's literally a group build, none of the steps should take too long and when it's all finished I'll take some photos and then put it in my cabinet

MiG Mongoose wrote: Possibly all the elements of a diorama/vignette could be photoshopped together to show the finished collaboration as it would be intended?

I've wondered about both possibilities in fact; either sending the separated parts by postal service or working with photoshop to put the whole thing on a single pic (I've seen already seen this on several box-arts). Both have their pros and cons; sending the separated parts for a real assembly allows the best result but the risk is very high to wreck something during the fret. Setting up an artificial pic is... artificial, but there's no risk for our precious models. So far I'd like to explore the possibilities of the photoshop solution.