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(Build dates: Saturday 24 October 2015 - Saturday 15 October 2016)

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Hasegawa 1:72 Vanship

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5 years 2 months ago #1 by grover
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I'm going to start off with a disclaimer. I no nothing about the universe this Vanship comes from, except that it's Japanese. When PJ put this up for sale, I grabbed it nonetheless as it's very reminiscent of early 20th century design that I love. It just looks super cool.
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There's not a lot to this. It actually has 2 ships in the kit. The Vanship and a smaller "Vespa" ship. Both come with stands but I'm only going to build the Vanship , and will keep it in red, 1. because it's my wife's favorite colour and she thinks it's cool too and 2. because i still have some Pactra red paint left over from when I made a Nissan 240Z.
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Not too many decals either which I like, although I think I will paint the white areas instead of using the decals.
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The instructions are fairly straight forward too. I'm hoping this will be a fairly fast build. I do want to test/achieve a few things though. I really want to up my game as far as preparation before painting goes. I don't want to have seem lines and gaps that I only see when I paint or after I take photos. I also want to test the new Vallejo acrylic metal colous. These may not be the best colours to test on given they are dark, but I will be using Gunmetal and Burnt Iron. Finally, I want a great paint finish. I will be aiming for the best finish I have done so far on a model.
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The way I am going to have to go about the build, I decided to paint some of the internal areas that may be seen first. I used Gunze RLM66? Grey Black. Most of the body work will be assembled and painted in parts, and then given a final assembly later on.
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So a question before I move on. I will be priming the metal parts in X1 Gloss Black to give a nice base for the Vallejo metals. Will this be a good colour to use as a primer for the red body too, or should I look for a light colour? I will be painting parts gloss white as well so could use that as a primer?

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5 years 2 months ago #2 by PJNZ
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Super cool dude! Looking forward to seeing this come together with the metal colors!
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5 years 2 months ago #3 by Powder
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Great choice Grover. I've seen this kit around and always liked the look of it but for some reason I've never added one to the stash - I might have to remedy that :whistle:

As for priming options - I'm a bit lazy, so I only prime if either the plastic colour is way off the top coat colour or there's lots of sanding/filling required.
So, if the fit is good and you're making a red Vanship from red plastic I'd think about not priming.

If I need to do some filling/sanding then I choose a primer colour that helps with seeing subtle shadows - usually a light grey - but a matt white works too. I wouldn't use gloss white for priming. The shiny surface makes it hard to see imperfections and the top coat will always cover better (less paint needed) over a matt base coat.

A dark/black undercoat can make colours seem brighter - I know it doesn't make sense - but people who paint 'toy-soldier' type figures gave been doing this for years. It just depends on whether a bright look is really what you're after with this build.
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5 years 2 months ago #4 by Viperbuilder
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Cool stuff Kane. I always used to wonder who this kit would appeal to when it was released. I guess I know that now. :)

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5 years 2 months ago #5 by Powder
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Viperbuilder wrote: Cool stuff Kane. I always used to wonder who this kit would appeal to when it was released. I guess I know that now. :)


Mental note to self : Do not buy Viper a Steampunk themed xmas card this year. :)
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5 years 2 months ago #6 by Xtr3meNZer
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Mint, looking forward to it mate :)

When I painted the cars, I just primed in grey. Didn't bother with black... guess you could always test on a scrap piece of plastic.. or maybe the smaller one you have?
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5 years 2 months ago #7 by johnsnz
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Viperbuilder wrote: Cool stuff Kane. I always used to wonder who this kit would appeal to when it was released. I guess I know that now. :)


Same with me I wondered about Airfix Meteor kits....

Nice subject and something a bit different. Some one brought one along to the last club meeting and it looked pretty cool. I think of them in the same vein as those 'Porco Rossi' seaplane kits Fine Molds do or an Idol Master F/A-18. A quick look through Model Graphix and there is a heap of Japanese comic book tie in kits and subjects most of which I've never heard of. But it seems to be a big part of the hobby in Japan...

Look forward to seeing the build progress.
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5 years 2 months ago #8 by grover
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Cheers all. Yeah the Japanese do their sub-cultures proper like. It is different but should be a nice challenge, and I can hopefully get it done quickly before the next kit I am building arrives.

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5 years 2 months ago #9 by Powder
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johnsnz wrote: Same with me I wondered about Airfix Meteor kits....


You had me thinking 'What's oddball about a Gloster Meteor' - then I did some googling - I guess you're talking about the variation on the TSR.2 kit? :)

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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #10 by johnsnz
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Nah it's a 'one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter' type of comment. I'm sure if you're into Sci Fi or Steampunk or WHY a 1950's jet seems an odd choice for a model to build..
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5 years 2 months ago #11 by grover
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On with the buld. I started putting parts together in preparation for paint. The engine areas have some nice detail for the scale. Working hard to clean all the seams and joins.
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Hard to see in the photo but the join where these two halves came together is quite noticable. I've tried a small amount of sanding nut its hard to do with the detail and shape of the bulb.
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I also put the 2 halves of the body together. I used a permanent marker to highlight a seam line I would need to remove. Its pretty close to the louvre detail though. Lucky its not very heavy.
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Seam line gone, just need to do a final buff of the body.
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Not that you will see it but I've painted the floor of the cockpit area brown to represent wood. I need a better brown, but as I said, you won't see it. slowly adding details to the other internals.
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5 years 2 months ago #12 by Xtr3meNZer
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Bits and pieces look good, nice work on getting rid of that seam line there mate.

Looking forward to seeing it come together, such an interesting subject
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5 years 2 months ago #13 by Powder
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At least they put the seam between the louvres and not right through a set :)
It's a bit hard to tell from the photos how much room you had to work with - but often when there's clean up work to be done that's close to detail I'll mask off the detail to give it some protection from a wayward movement of the file/sander - maybe I'm just a bit clumsy but I find it helps. :)

Progress is looking great though - I'm looking forward to seeing this one completed - might even get one for myself if it looks ok - no pressure :P
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5 years 2 months ago #14 by PJNZ
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5 years 2 months ago #15 by johnsnz
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Yep looking good... Weird in a good way 1930's race car meets Tesla magnetic levitation.. Good level of detail in the kit...

Looking forward to more progress..

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5 years 2 months ago #16 by grover
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Cheers guys. Yeah I thought about masking off the louvres Powder but figured I could get the seam lines without doing it. And yeah, weird in a good way John. I think it's going to turn into a really nice kit, and it's also a nice straight forward build too.

I carried on tonight starting with hand painting other areas of the cockpit, including the seats
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I also gave the instrument panels a paint, followed by a light drybrush. Then using a toothpick I picked out the dials in white and green.
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I also painted up the other parts of the pit and put that together. The bulkheads had a drybrush of metalizers making them pop, but you wont see any of it.
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Then it was all assembled in the body. I still have the figures to do, but they can go in later. The surrounds of the pits are much like an open cockpit biplane, so I painted them black. I'll mask them off and close up the pit before painting. The underside also has a black strip around it. I painted it now but I think I will mask and repaint it after I do the body. I was quite hard to mask the actual strip.
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I also tested the fit of the wings. I glued in what looks like a control surface that in the cutout of the grey upper surface, but then I couldn't get the grey part on, so I had to rip it off and it will be painted separately.
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The other body parts got some prep and I glued the wheel hubs together. I've been a bit more aggressive than I have in the past with sanding off the sprue tabs, but because I'm pushing myself for a nicer finish, I've come in with finer sanders afterwards, and then finished off with a buff. It's surprising but its worked better than sitting there for 5 minutes with a light grit sander trying to take down the join tab.
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And so now I have 2 sets of parts ready for paint. Hopefully I will get to do that tomorrow.
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5 years 2 months ago #17 by Xtr3meNZer
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Cool! I really hope you can get that finish you're wanting aye. Good luck, but looking cool so far.
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5 years 2 months ago #18 by grover
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Not much time downstairs today. Too busy, but I did put some black Tamiya X1 down on the metallic parts as a base coat. I made the mistake of using the paint neat, but it was too thick and came out looking very flat, so some quick mixing with leveling thinner and I lay down a lot of paint. The result is a very glossy finish and should be a good base for the metallics.
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Then it was the old plastic sheet over the spray booth and leaving the suction on for a minute to hopefully clear out any dust particles. Will see how it all turns out in the morning.
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5 years 2 months ago #19 by Xtr3meNZer
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Yeah, glossy finish is perfect to get it nice and smooth. Hopefully no dust particles :P
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5 years 2 months ago #20 by grover
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Nope, no dust particles. Finish came out great. A couple of parts need a bit of a sand back and re-spray, but its not too bad. Very happy with how it's come out.
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Masking the cockpit openings was quite hard with tape due to the curve. I couldn't be sure it would keep itself stuck down, so I decided to use tack. I'll have to repaint the opening but that's fine.
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Then I joined the 2 fuselage halves together. Great Hasegawa fit as you would expect.
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And so was the nose. No real big problem areas. I may use some Mr Surfacer to get rid of the joins and give the impression of a large piece of sheet metal.
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I'll be using the black gloss on the body too as a base for the Red and White. Hopefully it works well.

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5 years 2 months ago #21 by grover
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I just went to put the pilot figures together. Pretty basic but it is only 1/72. Only 3 colours needed to paint them too. Well by colours I mean 2 greys and black.
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While putting together the 2nd figure an arm pinged off, going god knows where. I grabbed the 2nd set of figures for the smaller ship and used an arm off that. Looks naf but you wont see it anyway, and it's better than having a pilot with one arm missing.
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5 years 2 months ago #22 by Xtr3meNZer
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Carpet monster strikes again! lol. Nice that it's got a good fit, Hasegawa is always pretty good with that aye
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5 years 2 months ago #23 by Powder
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Looking good Grover.
I have the same issue with parts flying off into orbit - particularly it they're on the end of my tweezers - I squeeze a little too hard and they're space-junk.
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5 years 2 months ago #24 by Bishop
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I missed this somehow. Very nice work so far mate. Very nice clean up of that seam.

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5 years 2 months ago #25 by grover
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Cheers guys. Quick update before I take the wife out for her birthday dinner.
I started filling in the seams with Mr Surfacer 500. It didn't do too bad a job.
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Still some raised detail so more sanding
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Then I tried my new Tamiya Surface Primer, which just seemed like a thinner Mr Surfacer to be honest. Left it for a few hours and then sanded it back
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Satisfied and with the wife hassling me to get in the shower I did the gloss black X1 that will serve as the base coat. I also painted a sheet of plasticard with some tape strips to create sections. I'm going to use this to test spray the Vallejo Metal colours. Wife calling gotta shoot
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5 years 2 months ago #26 by Powder
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Looking good.
Great idea with the test cards - I did a card when I was painting my ODS T-72, trying out all the tin/jars of sandy-yellow-ish paint that I had sitting around - I marked down all the codes on the card and I've kept if for future reference. I might do a few more for other colours as the need arises.

... and Happy Birthday to Mrs Grover :woohoo:
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5 years 2 months ago #27 by grover
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Cheers powder. At the restaurant and Wifey hasn't growled me yet. Phew. Forgot one pic. Also finished the wheels. Leaving the centres gloss black. Love this method of painting wheels. So simple even I can't stuff it up...... Too often
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5 years 2 months ago #28 by Kiwimav
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Interesting build Kane

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Lots of 1/35 Armor mainly WWII German and a few Modern British/American pieces, 1/32 Aircraft and 1/48 Aircraft. Aircraft chosen to replicate RNZAF and RAAF types through the years. Some RAF & USAF types exist also.
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5 years 2 months ago #29 by grover
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Cheers mate. Paint has come out noce. It actually looks pretty cool in gloss back. Be a shame to cover it up.
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That's a really nice gloss coat on those items

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