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BoB: Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk.1 Al Deere ***Finished***

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #1 by jimmy07
I'm back in NZ, won't bore yas with the story instead I'll try and bedazzle you with a build (Yeah right!) I reckon I will still have time, if that's ok Grant? :whistle:

I have the Tamiya 1/48 Mk.1 Spitfire which I'll be doing as KL-B Al Deere's aircraft. I see Viperbuilder is doing the same plane but from Airfix, by the looks of that kit and resin it will be some good inspiration! She will be OOB with the only extras the decals from Eagle Cals.







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5 years 10 months ago #2 by Grant
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jimmy07 wrote: I'm back in NZ, won't bore yas with the story instead I'll try and bedazzle you with a build (Yeah right!) I reckon I will still have time, if that's ok Grant? :whistle: :


Perfectly okay Jim. Good to have you aboard and looking forward to seeing this progress. :cheer:
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5 years 10 months ago #3 by Xtr3meNZer
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Will be quite good to see a spitty on it's way :)

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5 years 10 months ago #4 by Viperbuilder
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Hi Jimmy

We won't actually be doing the same Alan Deere KL-B aircraft. I'm doing his Kiwi III Spitfire R6981.

You will be doing his Kiwi II Spitfire P9398. Note, however, that EagleCals got the serial number wrong when doing their decal research. N3183 was lost on the same day as P9398 (9 July 1940) and the former was incorrectly attributed to being Al Deere's aircraft. On 9 July 1940 P/O Evershed failed to return while flying N3183. Meanwhile, Al Deere had his famous collision with Oberfeldwebel Johann Illner's Bf-109E on the same day in P9398.

Ironically, Jerry Crandall got Kiwi II's serial number correct when he painted Al Deere's collision in the 1990s. You can get decals sheets with the eight inch serial numbers from Ventura and XtraDecal so no need to worry there. N3183 was not a KL-B coded aircraft but Al Deere is recorded as flying the aircraft on 24 and 25 May 1940 during the period he was flying his original Kiwi aircraft N3180.

As a building note for Kiwi II, it had a Rotol spinner and prop, and the rear-view mirror was mounted inside the windshield of his cockpit. Camouflage pattern is per the EagleCal decal sheet.

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5 years 10 months ago #5 by jimmy07
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Cheers Guys, and thanks Grant.

Thanks a tun for the info Steve (Viperbuilder)! I wouldn't have given that serial a second thought. And as it happens I just bought Venturas 8" serial decals last week! Your input has been most helpful. Incidentally, I ended up helping on Brendan Deere's Spitfire (IXc "AL") when it was being restored. My old man was on the team, I had flying lessons/classes in the morning and helped on the Spitty in the arvo. I was a lucky man to say the least!

I will be using the kit spinner and props, after looking at the other spitfire kits I have, this is the 'roundest' of the lot :lol:

Progress is surprisingly fast! Though the kit has bugger all pieces, those pieces fit nice and snug (so far) and I am very pleased with the details.











No decals for the IP, for what it is I am quite pleased with how it looks. I added lap belts from Eduards Big Ed for the DC-3 and used tape and PE for the shoulder harnesses. Cockpit painted with Tamiya acrylics. Next up is closing the fuse and slapping them wings on! I don't want to jinx things, but this may be my fastest build yet*

Jim :)


*NB just to put things in perspective, my last (and only) build took over 2 years to complete. Shouldn't be hard to beat that :silly: :lol:
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5 years 10 months ago #6 by Grant
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This looks excellent. Great pictures too. :cheer:
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5 years 10 months ago #7 by grover
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Great detail Jimmy

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5 years 10 months ago #8 by Xtr3meNZer
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Very nice, loving the dirtiness inside :)
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5 years 10 months ago #9 by Viperbuilder
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You are making some good progress there Jimmy. Looking good.

During the weekend I dug out my Eagle Cals decal sheet and noticed that the P9398 serial number was looking at me on the QV-K P9386 option on that sheet. If you turn the 6 upside down you you have a 9 and if you put that in front of the 8 on the serial number you have P9398! :)

I have a spare Rotol prop and spinner from the old Airfix 1-48 Mk.1 Spitfire that you can have if you want it. It fits the Tamiya Spitfire Mk.1 perfectly. If you want it PM me with your address details and I'll send it to you. ;)

Lucky guy with being able to fondle Brendan Deere's Mk.IX. A most inspirational exercise.

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Thanks all :)

Viperbuilder wrote: You are making some good progress there Jimmy. Looking good.

During the weekend I dug out my Eagle Cals decal sheet and noticed that the P9398 serial number was looking at me on the QV-K P9386 option on that sheet. If you turn the 6 upside down you you have a 9 and if you put that in front of the 8 on the serial number you have P9398! :)

I have a spare Rotol prop and spinner from the old Airfix 1-48 Mk.1 Spitfire that you can have if you want it. It fits the Tamiya Spitfire Mk.1 perfectly. If you want it PM me with your address details and I'll send it to you. ;)

Lucky guy with being able to fondle Brendan Deere's Mk.IX. A most inspirational exercise.

Cheers
Steve


Good find with the Eagle cals! PM inbound thanks a bunch for your kind offer.

Jim :)

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5 years 10 months ago #12 by Bishop
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Looking very good.

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5 years 10 months ago #13 by Kiwimav
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Agreed, looking vg...nice work

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5 years 10 months ago #14 by Wally
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Go Jimmy! Looking good mate.

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5 years 10 months ago #15 by PJNZ
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Cockpit looking great!
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5 years 10 months ago #16 by RED
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Nice subject - I'll be watching with interest
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #17 by jimmy07
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Thanks all.

Made a bit of progress, she's all buttoned up and in the process of cleaning the seams etc. Generally there is bugger all cleaning up needed and the fit is wonderful.

The only part I found to have a rather strange fit was the pieces for the Carburettor intake. I took some before and after photos.













Looks a bit better now. :)
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5 years 10 months ago #18 by Grant
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That is some interesting fit. Nice save. B)
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5 years 9 months ago #19 by grover
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That's some nice work there Jimmy. That intake looks super smooth.

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5 years 9 months ago #20 by Viperbuilder
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Hi Jimmy

Sometimes I feel a bit reluctant to provide advice when I see errors being made on kit builds but I'll test the water here. :whistle:

The carb intake is a L-shaped tube that exits the underside of the Spitfire behind the engine. The fairing behind the tube is a separate piece which Tamiya has depicted correctly. The front portion of the L-tube on the Tamiya kit needs to be blended into the downward portion to make the L as you have done (nice work BTW) but it should not be faired into the fairing behind it. You can recover what you have done by sanding in a front edge to the fairing again.

I'll see if I can find a photo of the real piece to show you.

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Viperbuilder wrote: Hi Jimmy

The carb intake is a L-shaped tube that exits the underside of the Spitfire behind the engine. The fairing behind the tube is a separate piece which Tamiya has depicted correctly. The front portion of the L-tube on the Tamiya kit needs to be blended into the downward portion to make the L as you have done (nice work BTW) but it should not be faired into the fairing behind it. You can recover what you have done by sanding in a front edge to the fairing again.

I'll see if I can find a photo of the real piece to show you.

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Hey Steve,

Yeah I did see some photos showing that, I can't seem to find them now? This was my easy compromise :) She's already glued to the fuse now and that's how she'll stay.


Thanks for pointing this out, I do appreciate it! :)

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5 years 9 months ago #22 by grover
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Viperbuilder wrote: Hi Jimmy

Sometimes I feel a bit reluctant to provide advice when I see errors being made on kit builds but I'll test the water
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You shouldn't feel reluctant to offer your knowledge mate. I'm sure we would all rather be happy to learn stuff.

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5 years 9 months ago #23 by jimmy07
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grover wrote:
You shouldn't feel reluctant to offer your knowledge mate. I'm sure we would all rather be happy to learn stuff.


I agree :)

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5 years 9 months ago #24 by Viperbuilder
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Thanks for your re-assurance guys.

As promised, some pics of the carb intake.







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5 years 9 months ago #25 by jimmy07
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Oh I may still be able to get away with a sneaky scribe to make it look slightly better :) thanks for posting these Steve.

I have noticed on the instructions they call for XF-21 "sky" for the under surfaces. This colour kind of looks a bit too green. Especially does after seeing those pics above. Is something slightly more greyish or white-ish sound closer, or perhaps Tamiya have it spot on???

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5 years 9 months ago #26 by Viperbuilder
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Treat the images above with caution because they have been washed out a bit with the camera flash. Tamiya XF-21 is too dark and needs to be diluted with white anywhere from 33% to 50% to look right.

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Viperbuilder wrote: Tamiya XF-21 is too dark and needs to be diluted with white anywhere from 33% to 50% to look right.


Beauty. My eyes may have a few more years in them yet :P Thanks again!

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5 years 9 months ago #28 by shaunfletcher
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You could easily depict that with a scribe and some adventurous weathering!

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Got a coat of Primer (Mr surfacer 1200) on over the weekend. had a few minor touch ups. Did some pre-shading with Tamiya Neutral Grey then shot the underside with a 50:50 mix Tamiya Sky XF-21 and White XF-2. That colour looks much better to my eye :)

Note: This shot has been over exposed and shows the grey a lot darker than it really was. it's closer to the other pics of the top :)


Might be a bit tricky to see, but I managed to scribe the line onto the carburettor intake, looking at the photos this should be enough to look authentic. Quite surprised at how accurate I've gone, I normally don't bother with that sort of stuff :)






I also chopped off the elevator and glued back on in pitch down- a tiny change that, to me, makes quite an improved difference. Very happy with it :)
Next up is Brown and Green. Still on track to be my fastest build yet :woohoo:

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Nice Jimmy. That underside looks really nice. Perfect amount of pre-shading showing through.

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