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BoB - Eduard 1/32 BF109-E3

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5 years 11 months ago - 5 years 11 months ago #91 by Grant
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Kiwimav wrote: Really Grant, he's a German figure...oh my lmao!


Ooops, hadn't seen that implication. :ohmy: :lol:
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5 years 11 months ago #92 by PJNZ
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grover wrote: At the moment he's looking and thinking "There's something missing on this plane but I can't quite put my finger on it" :woohoo:


Haha Kane - quite a bit missing alright! He's about 12 seconds away from a giant mess! :pinch:

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5 years 11 months ago #93 by PJNZ
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"Now I can see his properly I can see just how good a job you've done on him. Superb!!"
Thanks Tony overall I like having a human involved. I did quite a bit of trimming etc to get him to fit properly and hold control stick etc. But I can’t take credit for the figure painting – I bought him pre-painted on E-bay!

"That figure really helps bring it to life. Will be great seeing it all together as you have envisioned it. Though it is a shame that he will be in the way of all the instrument work you done on the cockpit there..."
Hey Xtremer yeah he pretty much totally obscures the cockpit walls that I spent about 42,000 hours detailing! :blink:

Haha Grant, Yes - Did I turn the oven off? Did I lock the front door? Did I come across as a pompous dick at my ‘Ace’ ceremony speech? Or…

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5 years 11 months ago #94 by Grant
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Do figures in planes still seem a bit unfashionable? Maybe because they are associated with the hobby in the 70s. I'd personally love more of an opportunity to incorporate them. It would be nice to have a crew for the 1/32 He-111 for example. :)
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5 years 11 months ago #95 by PJNZ
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Having got back to some modelling recently after many years II guess I benefit from no current modelling "fashion-sense". I consider that a good thing because I love the figure in this plane! It adds such a sense of context and scale for me. Realising how cramped the cockpit is really brings home the intensity of the pilots experience - noise, smell, restricted movement etc. Since I'm going to try posing the plane in flight a pilot seems apt :)
Yeah a whole crew for the Heinkel would be sweet Grant..

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5 years 11 months ago #96 by Glenn
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PJNZ wrote: Having got back to some modelling recently after many years II guess I benefit from no current modelling "fashion-sense". I consider that a good thing because I love the figure in this plane! It adds such a sense of context and scale for me. Realising how cramped the cockpit is really brings home the intensity of the pilots experience - noise, smell, restricted movement etc. Since I'm going to try posing the plane in flight a pilot seems apt :)
Yeah a whole crew for the Heinkel would be sweet Grant..


Very cool Paul he looks great in the pit :)
The noise,smell and restricted movement helped the pilots be one with there plane.......
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5 years 11 months ago #97 by PJNZ
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Very cool Paul he looks great in the pit :)
The noise,smell and restricted movement helped the pilots be one with there plane.......[/quote]

True Glenn! It must of been a hell of a ride in the heat of battle eh!

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5 years 10 months ago #98 by Wally
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Coming along great Paul.
I think your 'rough' cockpit weathering is great. The pilot figure looks excellent too although he obscures the cockpit somewhat. Still, we've seen the photos ... we know its there.
Looking forward to the engine and more ...
Excellent work.

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5 years 10 months ago #99 by PJNZ
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Cheers Wally :)
I'm going to have the cowling closed so wont bother painting engine etc but I think I still need to insert it all so the prop and exhausts etc all have a platform to attach to.
I applied a dulling wash over the instrument panel because the decal colour was too bright and fresh - see comparison dash decal along side




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5 years 10 months ago #100 by grover
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Thats looking nice PJ. You're right, the muted instrument panel looks better I think.

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #101 by Xtr3meNZer
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Yeah looks better dulled down like that. Also a good idea not painting the engine... waste of time if you're not going to be seeing it :)
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5 years 10 months ago #102 by Von Drinkoften
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The dulled panel definitely looks better and I love that pilot as well. Very nicely done.B)
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5 years 10 months ago #103 by Nosferatu
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She is coming along nicely PJ! Check your instructions ...I cant put the cowl on mine with the engine inserted...there are two options in that regard!... In hindsight I wouldn't have done mine as it is fighting me every step of the way!!!!!

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #104 by Terry
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Repeating what others have said, I too like the dulled down instrument panel for the scale effect. I'm somewhat amazed a modern kit with an engine in it does not fit properly. This is something that seldom gets picked up with box reviews online that I find annoying. It's all well and good waxing lyrical in reviews about detail and rivets etc but if the kit doesn't fit together why bother writing a review at all? The real review worth reading is WIP builds just like this one. Keep up the good work PJ.
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5 years 10 months ago #105 by PJNZ
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Thanks guys :) Yes the dulled down dash looks better. I might try painting the upper dash and see how it compares to the decaled option.
Corran I read instructions (remarkable!) and am now working on the engine out / cowling closed option. I had to cut the machine gun mounts off for the rear top cowl to fit. I'll keep dry-fitting all parts as I go before final gluing of all cowlings. Then hopefull it'll look pretty good and ready for assembly of wings etc then painting.
I think I'd like to try a yellow now colour scheme.







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5 years 10 months ago #106 by Andrew
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Looking good :cheer:

Need to get into my 109

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #107 by PJNZ
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Cheers Andrew :)

Well I had a go at painting the upper dash. First applied an overall enamel grey



Then started picking out the details of dial bezels



Continued painting details and applied a few drops of Krystal Klear over the dial faces to simulate glass. After quite a bit of time and concentration I had had enough and the result looked half decent.





Last thing was to apply a wash to dull it all down a bit. I had a great idea how to dry the paint and KK ready for wash - just sit it near the desk lamp bulb for a few minutes...


To be fair thhis isnt quite the dried out result I had in mind.... :whistle:
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5 years 10 months ago #108 by Grant
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:ohmy: You won't make this mistake twice. :lol:

This was an alternative panel though?
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5 years 10 months ago #109 by grover
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Ouch PJ. It explains your pilot's expression though :pinch:

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5 years 10 months ago #110 by Andrew
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If it is your only instrument panel, I can send you the kit part from my Eduard 109E-4 if it suits?

It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.
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5 years 10 months ago #111 by Xtr3meNZer
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Oh no! all you can do is laugh I guess? Hopefully the kit has another, or someone here can help you :)
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5 years 10 months ago #112 by Von Drinkoften
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Bugger. I made a similar error last year after painting the vinyl tracks on my T-62.
I figured I could speed up the drying process if I left them on the deck in the hot sun to dry.
Big mistake. :blush: :lol:
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5 years 10 months ago #113 by Bishop
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If that had been me you would have heard my reaction from NZ. All will be well... after a scotch.

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #114 by PJNZ
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Grant, Yeah hopefully once is enough! Funny how in hindsight it was so obviously not the best idea..
Kane, Yeah he’s looking blank cos he’s heading into heavy cloud with no HSI or Altimiter! :huh:
Thanks Andrew that’s kind of you mate. I actually nearly asked you or Corran if you had one but then got impatient and just used the decal version. Cheers tho! :)
K2, Yeah kinda funny! Actually I was surprised how little it bothered me at the time considering all the effort I spent on it.
Von Drinkoften, Ouch warping the T-26 tracks would have been a bit harder to replace than this panel! :pinch:
Hey Tony, A scotch is the trick huh? I’ll keep that in mind ;)

So I stuck the decaled version in and accentuated it a bit with some painted details and then washed it to dull it down. It’s not that flash but still ok I think. Then I started cleaning up and gluing some wing bits. Hopefully soon I will stick all wings on fuselage and fill gaps (especially where main wings meet body underneath) and then apply some primer! Looking forward to getting into painting!





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5 years 10 months ago #115 by Xtr3meNZer
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Getting there, and not too bad of a replacement :) With the pilot in there, your eye will be drawn to him instead of the dash
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5 years 10 months ago #116 by Von Drinkoften
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Xtr3meNZer wrote: Getting there, and not too bad of a replacement :) With the pilot in there, your eye will be drawn to him instead of the dash


Yeah and once the canopy is closed up you'd be hard pressed to notice. Looking good mate. B)
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5 years 10 months ago #117 by PJNZ
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Cheers guys :)
I set the elevators and rudders per a starboard banking dive.





This kit is designed to have wheels down so the landing gear covers were a poor fit into the cavities

After lots of filing and sanding both fit reasonably ok


The strut and wheel sit very proud of the cavity which is kind of understandable re a wheels down kit


The tops of the cavity walls were too proud for the wing to fit together which was a bit poor. So I spent quite a bit of time filing walls down and sanded the wheels heavily to fit.


Chopped and sanded strut top so it could be visible above closed cover.



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5 years 10 months ago #118 by Xtr3meNZer
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Well definitely a large amount taken off there! Looks a good fit now though
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5 years 10 months ago #119 by grover
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Yeah that looked like a fair amount of sanding, but a good result PJ. I'm glad you're doing an in flight build.

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5 years 10 months ago #120 by KitModellerNZ
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Looking great!

Pity about the incident with the IP.
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