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5 years 10 months ago #31 by PJNZ
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5 years 10 months ago #32 by Kiwimav
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NICE WORK!!!!

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5 years 10 months ago #33 by Xtr3meNZer
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Very cool mate. Looking forward to seeing it all together with that awesome detailing
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5 years 10 months ago #34 by PJNZ
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Thanks guys - a little more progress this eve...

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5 years 10 months ago #35 by Bishop
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Yeah great work. The detail sells it when it comes to painting.

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5 years 10 months ago #36 by jimmy07
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Beauty scratch work mate, she's lookin much busier up in there!
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5 years 10 months ago #37 by grover
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Nice PJ. Are you working off reference photos or using artistic licence? Or both ;)

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5 years 10 months ago #38 by PJNZ
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Thanks for dropping in guys :)
Kane I am mostly refering to a couple of pics found on internet. Where they are vague I am making calculated guesses.
Have been adding some more wiring and a couple of junction boxes. This detail stuff takes me a lot more time than the progress results would indicate! :blink:
Had to add the proverbial skull at this stage to spice things up a bit B)

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5 years 10 months ago #40 by Bishop
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AArrrrr! shiver me timbers that's very NICE!!!

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5 years 10 months ago #41 by Xtr3meNZer
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That is looking great! Loving the wiring, hopefully you can still see most of it! I know what you mean by doing the detail takes time... I really do lol
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5 years 10 months ago #42 by Nosferatu
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Doing an awesome job! It does take time..but it can be fun..and frustrating...and fun...and frustrating... :blink:

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #43 by Kiwimav
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DUDE...loving this...skull n X Bones nice touch

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #44 by PJNZ
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Aarr shiver me timbers I'm walking the plank on this one verrry slowly,,,
So have had a go at spraying some heavily reduced Mr Surface 500 through .3 nozzle to prime cockpit wall. Sprayed fairly thin coats trying to get decent coverage without obliterating fine detail. The monochrome affect certainly ties all components together - as well as highlighting blobs of glue that might need some sculpting before applying RLM02.
I'm enjoying mucking around with the scratch detail stuff so far. Might even have the cockpit complete by end date! :P







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Mr Surfacer 500 can be a tad thick for priming parts, try using 1000, 1200 or better yet the new 1500 grey or black. They will spray much nicer and won't need as much thinning...
Trick with Mr Surfacer is test spray on something first, if it's not thinned enough it tends to spray as spiderwebs (literally) so you keep thinning until it sprays nice. The best thing with mr surfacer is it tends to dry very quickly, I have sprayed paint n top within an hour of putting the mr surfacer down, it may vary a bit depending on the temp and humidity of where you spray.

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CyNaKyL wrote: Mr Surfacer 500 can be a tad thick for priming parts, try using 1000, 1200 or better yet the new 1500 grey or black. They will spray much nicer and won't need as much thinning...
Trick with Mr Surfacer is test spray on something first, if it's not thinned enough it tends to spray as spiderwebs (literally) so you keep thinning until it sprays nice. The best thing with mr surfacer is it tends to dry very quickly, I have sprayed paint n top within an hour of putting the mr surfacer down, it may vary a bit depending on the temp and humidity of where you spray.


Good to know mate. Yeah when I started trying to spray it I did wonder if the 500 was more of a filler than a primer for spraying. After mixing with lots of solvent thinner it sprayed fairly well but still seemed not as smooth as a good primer coat should be. Speaking of not very smooth after scratching up the primer to create some wear I went about spraying the Italeri RLM002. I had to thin it heavily with tap water to get a reasonable viscosity for spraying. I aimed to lay it down in thin layers but it seemed to over-build very easily especially in. crevices etc. Tip dry was a problem that had me keep cleaning the needle tip often. When spraying quite wet onto test paper it shoots pretty well but light spraying like I wanted to do was an issue for me.. Anyway perhaps I'll get it going better but I find pretty much any acrylic that is thinned only with water causes a bit of trouble this way.. Any one else found a way to get it spraying nicely with light spray?





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5 years 10 months ago #47 by Xtr3meNZer
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That is looking great mate! good stuff
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #48 by PJNZ
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Thanks K2 :)
Some specific feedback would be appreciated - what is working? and what isn't? and how might I adjust it for the better? Thanks! :)

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5 years 10 months ago #49 by Xtr3meNZer
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I'm no expert on the interior of a WWII German aircraft, so I don't really have any constructive criticism, or any suggestions. It just looks awesome to me.
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The colour looks good. I would say the weathering etc looks a little heavy for a cockpit. With the side walls especially you wouldn't normally have such heavy staining, more like chipping and a bit of wear where the pilot and ground crew brush against the raised edges etc while in the cockpit.
But each to their own, just a little heavy for my tastes.
Another thing you could do is run a wash around all the details, like a grimy browny black one. This will add the illusion of depth and make it all look more "3D". You can make your own either with oil paints or if you have some enamel paint, heavily thinned with thinners until it resembles dirty water or you can buy off the shelf ones like the ak or ammo products. They both now do a specific cockpit wash set for luftwaffe aircraft or you can use the AK nato vehicle wash, it's a brown black wash that works well in cockpits and gear bays without being too dense Do this after a clear coat though to seal in the other work you have done.

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OOPS!! :pinch: :whistle: :woohoo: :P

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I'm like K2. I've never done a WW2 plane so it's all learning for me. I do like the extra detail you're adding PJ,

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:ohmy: What happened?
The added detail looks/looked? great, but is such a tiny space inside... especially with the canopy closed up, will be hard to see.
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PJNZ wrote: OOPS!! :pinch: :whistle: :woohoo: :P


That looks like it didn't go to plan. Did you lay it on a bit heavy or something? Or did it just not level out...

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Skin stress wrinkles, nothing to worry about

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That looks like some pretty stressed skin, maybe it needs to have a spa day or something... :woohoo:

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Hehe thought I might be able to remove paint with thinner - not such a good move. Anyway out with 'perfect' and in with 'get it done' :)

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #58 by PJNZ
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Take 2.
After priming with Mr Surfacer I sprayed Tamiya gloss black then Italeri RLM02. This time I thinned the Italeri heavily with solvent thinners instead of water and it seemed to lay down better for me. Then I painted the details and washed a little black W&N oil paint around, but not too much so as not to over-grunge it this time.







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5 years 10 months ago #59 by Bishop
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Yes, nice stuff, nothing like black underneath to do the shading and then bringing the details to life. Lots of good work now paying off.

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What Bishop said. Looking very nice

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