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5 years 10 months ago #121 by Bishop
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Nice work fitting those wheels. There is a lot more work to be done on these Eduard kits than I thought

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5 years 10 months ago #122 by PJNZ
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Cheers guys :) I suspect this particular Eduard kit has more fit issues than the average Eduard. More than the 1/48 Abatros I built anyway.

Having not done a WW2 plane since basically I was a kid and then only 1/72, I am pretty much just mimicking what I see others do here and elsewhere online. For example I never would have dreamed of trying to mask and paint the cockpit frame around the glass! A task which will be quite a challenge I think :silly:

So a little more progress. Taking plenty of time to dry fit parts before cementing ;)













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5 years 10 months ago #123 by Xtr3meNZer
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Getting there :)
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5 years 10 months ago #124 by Nosferatu
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Coming along real well PJ! Wish I had done mine with the cowl on now....

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #125 by PJNZ
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Yep getting there - slowly slowly tortoise style. :) Nos, I think having the cowling open to see the engine gives another dimension of interest to the model. What pose are you thinking for end result? A maintenance setting would be cool but lots more work creating a diorama of that kind eh.

Below is a cold environment thermal device tested by the Luftwaffe


And this was the VERY cold version. Neither were widely implemented in combat.


The front slats on this kit were designed to be open. So after some research of how they work I cut some of the railing off and attached them in the shut position to suit a diving pose.




I painted the wheel bays RLM002. Painted the tops of the wheel stems a Stainless colour and washed some black oil over them. Stems seem often to be RLM002 but I wanted a bit more contrast against the cavity colour.




I painted the tyres Rubber Black and the wheels Aluminium. Will add some mud and grunge to both. All these bits I painted with conventional brush instead of airbrush and the brush strokes are evident especially on the wheels (Mr Metal Aluminium). I will probably buff them to reduce strokes and some grunge will hide them too. I really dislike seeing brush strokes unless it is meant to represent a brush painted finish. What do you guys think?


So I just need to install guns and should be ready to close wings and attach to fuselage. Then some putty and then... PRIMER time – yippee! Quite keen to give the pre-shading of the panel lines a go too
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5 years 10 months ago #126 by grover
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Like the progress PJ. Making me keen to get into my build.

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5 years 10 months ago #127 by Bishop
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Love it canopy down. Coming along nicely

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5 years 10 months ago #128 by PJNZ
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Interesting to see the effect after buffing the Mr Metal paint.


Added some Florey's grime to the tyres and some and some black oil paint to the metal work.

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5 years 10 months ago #129 by Bishop
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That's the way, perfect.

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #130 by PJNZ
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Plenty of fit issues with wings to fuselage. After lots of Zap a Gap and sanding got a half decent result.







And lots of zap a gap and filing to get the two halves under front to match


The flaps on this kit are set to down position and ailerons to neutral (cruise) So I cut them up a bit to suit a dive to the right.. Slats in, right aileron up, left aileron down, flaps level, elevators down, rudder to right - all being equal this would result in a pretty steep starboard dive.

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5 years 10 months ago #131 by Xtr3meNZer
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Ouch with the fit there, but you have pulled it back into being quite nice again.

Nice steep dive :P
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5 years 10 months ago #132 by grover
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Ohh, a bit nervous about starting my Eduard kit now too given the small amount of time I will have to complete it. Cool that you're working through it PJ.

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #133 by PJNZ
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Yep Corran he's been flying at height for some time, not really expecting any contact when suddenly through the cloud he glimpses a spitfire shape way below. Stick hard right, stomping pedals, he throws his machine into a dive upon an unsuspecting enemy!
My snapshot captures the split second after his decision to dive but before full dive mode. How I'm gonna physically pose this snapshot is yet uncertain!

Meanwhile I hope to start priming soon. And I better get serious about choosing a top colour scheme.

Kane From what I've read and from looking at that 1/48 kit you have I think it will go together a LOT easier than this 1/32 version..
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #134 by PJNZ
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Ready for Priming


Mr Surfacer 500 heavily reduced with solvent thinner - applied with Badger 150 (with Medium needle / nozzle setup I think)




You won't find this in your Edmonds Cook book


Oven-baked 109, ready for some pre-shading...
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5 years 10 months ago #135 by Xtr3meNZer
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Looking good... but curious about the baking of it? you weren't worried about the same happening as your dash? :P
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5 years 10 months ago #136 by Grant
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PJNZ wrote: You won't find this in your Edmonds Cook book


:ohmy:

Tidy result. :)
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5 years 10 months ago #137 by F1xena
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Yeah, not sure about that oven stuff...makes me think about those bike racks on the roof of a car...it's a good idea, but you know what is going to happen eventually :woohoo: :blush: :(
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5 years 10 months ago #138 by Andrew
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Just been having a quick gander at the net on using the oven to bake paint on

Can you go into a bit of detail about how you did yours? ie what temp, did you leave door open, did you preheat then switch off and use latent heat. What is the smell like while curing?

Curious to know B)

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5 years 10 months ago #139 by Terry
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PJNZ wrote: You won't find this in your Edmonds Cook book


Almost a python sketch: Skip the cherry fondue chocolate and more conventional areas of confectionery, and opt for the crunchy 109 instead. Don't worry--it's not mock 109.
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5 years 10 months ago #140 by F1xena
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CAUTION possible thread hijack! :woohoo: :woohoo:

Anyone in NZ bought a food dehydrator for "baking" paint? They seem popular overseas with some of the car modellers. I've looked at the units for sale in Briscoes and Harvey Norman but they seem a bit expensive compared to the US for example....and American ones are the wrong voltage for here.

Apparently you have to chop up the "baskets" which are used to layer fruit etc for de-hydrating so you can fit in reasonable sized model parts (a 1/24 car body can be quite big, but not as big as a 1/32 aircraft with the wings on!) Dehydrators seem to rely on relatively low temperature air (good for styrene) being circulated around to dry out the food, and therefore speed up the paint curing process.

I'm a bit of a convert to Mr Color, which is a lacquer-type paint and cures very quickly, so haven't taken the dehydrator thing any further, but when I used to use Tamiya enamels, drying time was a real issue.

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5 years 10 months ago #141 by PJNZ
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Monty Pyhton's Carob 109 - low GI and gluten free. It the baking had of turned to sh*t I could have sung 'Always look on the bright side of life"

Prior to sticking it in the oven I used Jackie's Cosmic Ray Gun on it after which it was pretty much dry and no paint or solvent odour.


For what it's worth Andrew I had oven on a low 100*C with fan on and door open and kept feeling the body to check heat. It wasn't very hot so I closed the door for about 5 mins after which is was very warm to the touch. Being Mr. Surfacer it was always going to dry pretty good but I just felt like trying the baking thing.

Tania, I haven't heard of food dehydrator for baking paint but it sounds interesting. Paint chemistry / curing in general is a very interesting topic. The complete expiration of solvents (or other vehicle) is a major factor in successful curing / hardening. I know automotive clear-coats in particular can be very temperamental and if not oven baked properly then unexpired solvents can be trapped within which causes a real problem down the track. Of course model paint jobs are much thinner and not subject to much mechanical or environmental damage so much less of an issue I guess but similar principles.
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #142 by PJNZ
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Considering what colour scheme to use. The decal sheet on left came with the kit. The right is one kindly sent to me by Steve (Viper builder). Decisions decisions...

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #143 by PJNZ
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Started pre-shading panel lines

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5 years 10 months ago #144 by Xtr3meNZer
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That's great! how do you guys get it so damn straight??
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5 years 10 months ago #145 by Grant
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PJNZ wrote: Started pre-shading panel lines


You really are a talent with the airbrush. It's the main thing I'm really working on at the moment. I/32 is a great medium to practice the skills. :)
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5 years 10 months ago #146 by grover
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Another one who airbrushes with a set-square. :P That's really nice looking Preshading there PJ. Bring on the paint work :)

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5 years 10 months ago #147 by Von Drinkoften
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Boy that's come together nicely PJ... really nice job on dealing with the fit issues. B)
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F1xena wrote: CAUTION possible thread hijack! :woohoo: :woohoo:

Anyone in NZ bought a food dehydrator for "baking" paint? They seem popular overseas with some of the car modellers. I've looked at the units for sale in Briscoes and Harvey Norman but they seem a bit expensive compared to the US for example....and American ones are the wrong voltage for here.


I had on, gave it up as it took up way to much space. Purchased via one of those "snatch a 1 day deal a day grab" sites.
I find that leaving them under a old school lamp or a blast with a low power hair dryer is quieter and easier, especially since making the switch to acrylics.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread and a 109 baked earlier :-)

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5 years 10 months ago #149 by PJNZ
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Cheers guys.
I took a bit of video while airbrushing this pre-shading. There might be something of use in it for someone so I'll try uploading it somewhere

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5 years 10 months ago #150 by PJNZ
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Heres a little video of this preshading, I'll have a go at doing a decent one sometime with commentary
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