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TOPIC: ODS: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways FINISHED!

Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #31

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Grant wrote: To fit they do require little of the fuselage plastic to be carved away but it should be simple.


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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #32

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Nice save Grant and a great display of modelling skill! B)

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #33

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very nicely done mate

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #34

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That's a bloody good save there mate! These nozzles and the kit parts aren't even in the same universe...

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #35

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CyNaKyL wrote: That's a bloody good save there mate! These nozzles and the kit parts aren't even in the same universe...

2nded. Great save. I would have binned it and cried.

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #36

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Grant wrote:

Grant wrote: To fit they do require little of the fuselage plastic to be carved away but it should be simple.


:lol:


I dd re-read that and chuckle but i have decided to buy the same nozzles and follow your lead, you did such a good job!!

Do the bits you removed around the nacele sit proud??

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #37

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A little more. I also enclosed the bottom and added some more detail but didn't take pics.





The pics show the awesome potential for painting on these parts. Also, after working from the pics on the exhausts, I'm tempted to do a lot more. :pinch:

I'll probably start on this next:

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #38

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Flying_Kiwi wrote: I dd re-read that and chuckle but i have decided to buy the same nozzles and follow your lead, you did such a good job!!

Do the bits you removed around the nacele sit proud??


Not quite sure on your meaning here sorry. I think if I did this again I would just start by chopping everything past the titanium coloured ring around the fuselage and build the whole thing from scratch built parts.

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #39

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Very well done, and they look great!

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Lots of filling and sanding in this kit. Still, I can't wait to start the painting on this big sucker. :)









Still lots of filling to go and some extra detail to add. Thanks for following. :P
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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #41

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I've been working on this, but progress is pretty slow. The problem is that that the fit of the Aires cockpit set is about as poor as that of the exhausts. :sick: I mean, not even close. The kit tub is 4cm wide, the resin parts are 4.5cm. :S

I attribute this to one of the following scenarios:

a) The Revell kit is dimensionally inaccurate, and the Aires sets are dimensionally accurate.
b) The reverse of the above.
c) Both the kit and the detail sets are inaccurate.
d) There is another Revell 1/32 Tornado that no one is telling me about.
e) That normally, the Aires sets fit the Revell kit, on their way in the post to me the detail parts fell through some kind of distortion in the space time continuum and became slightly enlarged.
f) The cockpit set I have is in fact for a 56 Buick and I have become somehow deeply confused.
g) Finally, both kit and detail sets are just a bit shit.

I'm most tempted by options a) and g). :huh:

Still, lots of grinding later (both of teeth and the parts) and I almost have things fitting together. Stay tuned for some pics! :cheer:

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #42

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Bugger about the cockpit not fitting. The answer btw is probably

h) The Aires cockpit set is designed to fit the newly tooled Revell Tornado... www.largescaleplanes.com/kitdb/details.php?kit=1287

So what's your plan Grant? Are you going to shave away each side of the cockpit and a bit of the fuselage? :unsure:
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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #43

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I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was in fact f.

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #44

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I'm with Terry - You're using the initial issue of the Revell Tornado wich must be twenty-odd year old and VERY basic. The Aires set was designed for the later issue kit (around 2005/06). You may find that the tanks, BOZ pod & jamming pod are out aswell. If I recall correctly the tanks are noticeably short, but I may be wrong on that.

Doesn't help much, I know, just wish I'd seen this thread at the beginning I could have let you know.

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Ha, hilarious. :lol: That was my suspicion all along. I just assumed, obviously wrongly, that those were just a new boxing of the old kit. The reference in the detail set that it was made for the Revell kit is a bit annoying though. :unsure:

Terry wrote: So what's your plan Grant? Are you going to shave away each side of the cockpit and a bit of the fuselage? :unsure:


I'm in too deep to stop now. My plan is to grind, fill, grind, fill, try to get as much detail into this thing as possible and chalk it all up to a learning experience.

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #46

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Really admire that Grant.
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Bad luck about the parts :pinch:

Hopefully you can find some way to resolve it? B)
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bugger about the cockpit mate, but I'll still be watching with great interest
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Keep at it, you're making such a good job of cutting and shunting it's going to look awesome.
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Andrew wrote: Bad luck about the parts :pinch:

Hopefully you can find some way to resolve it? B)


Probably more my lack of attention than bad luck. Last night I half felt like getting the new mold and beginning again on that after reading about the shortcomings of this kit. The whole fuselage is 5mm too narrow apparently, which explains all of the fit difficulties. Even when I finish this kit I think the only 1/32 Tornado will feel like unfinished business. :side:

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #51

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That's a bugger about the resin parts not fitting the kit.
I'd have been gutted as they aren't exactly cheap either.
Here's hoping you can wrestle it into submission as you've done a brilliant job on the rear end so far.

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Grant wrote: I've been working on this, but progress is pretty slow. The problem is that that the fit of the Aires cockpit set is about as poor as that of the exhausts. :sick: I mean, not even close. The kit tub is 4cm wide, the resin parts are 4.5cm. :S

I attribute this to one of the following scenarios:

a) The Revell kit is dimensionally inaccurate, and the Aires sets are dimensionally accurate.
b) The reverse of the above.
c) Both the kit and the detail sets are inaccurate.
d) There is another Revell 1/32 Tornado that no one is telling me about.
e) That normally, the Aires sets fit the Revell kit, on their way in the post to me the detail parts fell through some kind of distortion in the space time continuum and became slightly enlarged.
f) The cockpit set I have is in fact for a 56 Buick and I have become somehow deeply confused.
g) Finally, both kit and detail sets are just a bit shit.

I'm most tempted by options a) and g). :huh:

Still, lots of grinding later (both of teeth and the parts) and I almost have things fitting together. Stay tuned for some pics! :cheer:



OH SH*T i bought the cockpit set....

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #53

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Grant wrote: I've been working on this, but progress is pretty slow. The problem is that that the fit of the Aires cockpit set is about as poor as that of the exhausts. :sick: I mean, not even close. The kit tub is 4cm wide, the resin parts are 4.5cm. :S

I attribute this to one of the following scenarios:

a) The Revell kit is dimensionally inaccurate, and the Aires sets are dimensionally accurate.
b) The reverse of the above.
c) Both the kit and the detail sets are inaccurate.
d) There is another Revell 1/32 Tornado that no one is telling me about.
e) That normally, the Aires sets fit the Revell kit, on their way in the post to me the detail parts fell through some kind of distortion in the space time continuum and became slightly enlarged.
f) The cockpit set I have is in fact for a 56 Buick and I have become somehow deeply confused.
g) Finally, both kit and detail sets are just a bit shit.

I'm most tempted by options a) and g). :huh:

Still, lots of grinding later (both of teeth and the parts) and I almost have things fitting together. Stay tuned for some pics! :cheer:



OH SH*T i bought the cockpit set....


Which kit do you have?

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #54

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the old one.,...... bugger....order has shipped too





hey that's why a bought a dremmel!!!
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I would seriously consider trying to get the new kit if I were you. The cockpit and the fuselage both need to be thinned pretty close to the point of destruction to get them to fit. I used the dremel on the cockpit and needed to go very close to killing the side wall detail. I still need to fill the holes forward and backward of the cockpit too. I'll post some pics when I get home from work tonight to let you know what you would be letting yourself in for. :lol:

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thanks mate that would be appreciated, wouldit be better to cut the tub in half and take the 2.5 mm from the middle and then a bit off the sides???

just blue sky thinking as i have not seen the pit yet

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Operation Desert Storm: 1/32 Tornado Snoopy Airways 3 years 8 months ago #57

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Do any of the Aires sets fit without surgery? I've always wanted to put one of their 'pits into a kit, but always hear about them being a pain to get in.

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Progressing a little. Resin parts cleaned up:



Test fit shows it doesn't fit, and then I discover the reason why on here. :whistle:



Grind grind.



Fit improves:



And after grinding down both the fuselage and the cockpit, its all in. Some obvious gaps to fill though.



Adding some more of the resin surrounds.



And this is where I'm at.



Lots to go on this build with all the detail I need to add. It's not going to be all that accurate given the basic kit and the changes I've had to make to force everything in, but hopefully it will look okay. Next up, I need to scratch build a refueling probe and the laser sight thing on the bottom of the nose, because they aren't on the kit version.

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Glad you finally got the resin to fit Grant, though if it didn't after that effort, I would have suggested your next effort should involve a hammer ;)

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Accuracy smacuracy, so long as it looks the part, and it it certainly does. If we were none the wiser about the Aires cockpit I'd say it fits like a dream looking at your pictures. Nice save. Watching with interest always.

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