A-4E Skyhawk "Top Gun" - grover's build. **Finished**

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5 years 5 months ago #2 by CyNaKyL
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Sounds like we've got the same ideas then, I was gonna have everything open and out on mine too.

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5 years 5 months ago #3 by grover
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Cool, I can copy you then :D

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5 years 5 months ago #4 by Glenn
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Great to see you in on this group build :)
So good to see all these sky hawks getting built at the sametime :cheer:
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5 years 5 months ago #5 by grover
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Glenn wrote: Great to see you in on this group build :)
So good to see all these sky hawks getting built at the sametime :cheer:


Yeah I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.

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5 years 2 months ago #6 by grover
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So I've cleaned up the garage and my work bench and pulled out the squawk. I must say the detail on this kit is amazing. I would be tempted to do a hump back version which this allows but would need to find new decals so I'll stick to an OOB build.
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The one extra that did turn up with my Sprue Brother order is an Eduard mask for the canopy and wheels. I wont use all the wheel masks as I quite like the method I have for painting them, but will use it on the canopy. Be my first time using an after market anything.
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The 2 halves of this gorgeous kit. Getting the seams perfect is one of my targets
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And that's not going to be an easy job with the nose section starting at the cockpit not lining up properly
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And the nose has an obvious step. It does line up but I have to push quite hard to straighten the whole thing. Some advice on correcting or gluing it with enough strength to correct the warp would be greatly appreciated.
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Hopefully this weekend I get some time downstairs to start prepping the fuselage halves and cockpit area. I'll be cleaning a dipping the canopy in Klear too.

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5 years 2 months ago #7 by CyNaKyL
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My kit had the exact same issue. Judicious use of clamps and plenty of tamiya extra thin lined it up enough I was able to sand and fettle it mostly into line. I still have a slight step on the back of that hump in front of the cockpit but once the canopy is on it should hardly be noticeable. The other bit to watch for is the gun ports or blank inserts in front of the wings. I ended up shimming it with some thin plasticard to fill the gaps. You'll need plenty of filler to fair them in nicely. Also, when you get round to putting the lower wings onto the fuselage, you'll need to trim the insides to allow it to sit far enough up so you don't have massive gaps along the wing root.
You'll get there mate, the rest of the kit fits together very nicely.

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5 years 2 months ago #8 by grover
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Cheers G2. Handy tips :)

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5 years 2 months ago #9 by grover
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Got home and started on the actual build. Starting with the ejector seat. It's a bit fiddly getting together.
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The canopy took a dip in clear.
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And the 2 fuselage halves got a clean up which wasn't hard, and a couple of lead sinkers put in the nose. Now I'll just leave it all to dry overnight.
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Now on with the cricket.

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5 years 2 months ago #10 by Craig Sargent
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I'd be careful with the nose and gluing, as I have yet to see that in any of the multiple Hasegawa A-4s I've built. I'd align the rear fuselage and get that glued and then make sure the nose was aligned before gluing. There may be a warp in the kit which gluing the halves as they appear to align doesn't resolve. Hopefully you'll find that the cockpit, intake and nose gear well help bring everything into alignment.

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5 years 2 months ago #11 by grover
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Thanks Craig, good tips. Im wondering if an investment in a couple of decent clamps would be in order?

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5 years 2 months ago #12 by grover
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So I got a little bit of time tonight to do some more. Amazing considering my workload but I'm determined to do a little each day.

I had a look at the canopy after its dip in Future and by and large I was really happy with it, but there was a little bubble in the main canopy, so back in the Klear it goes
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I also started putting the cockpit together. I had to place the seat in to get the right angle of the rear Ejector rails and bulkhead. There was just too much play in the parts to fit confidently in the right position
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And this was also true for the area just behind the seat wall. I had to do a test fit in the actual fuselage to ensure this fit.
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I also got to prep and fit the air intakes. They are 3 parts but fit together nicely.
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A test fit into the fuselage, with the engine front fan blade installed showed a little sanding needed, but by and large its a nice fit. Now I'm wondering if I should glue the intakes on now so I can do any filling and re-scribing while I can lay the fuselage halves on their sides. I dont think it will cause any problems when it comes time to put the halves together and I can take my time to mask off the intakes.
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Im also thinking a different lense on my camera would be really useful to get the closer in shots with a larger depth of field. Any suggestions (Canon 70D)

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5 years 2 months ago #13 by Tiger
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Can't help with the pic's, but nice to see a little progress Kane.
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5 years 2 months ago #14 by grover
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Cheers Tiger.

Added the hole for the boarding ladder
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Not much new to report. Slowly sanding and prepping a bunch of parts for primer. The biggest thing I'm trying to figure out is how to handle the landing gear and gear doors. This landing gear is more complex than anything I've done previously. I don't know if I could/should assemble it when i put the fuselage halves together and get the plane to sit on them during the build, or wait and assemble them after, but that might mean priming and spray painting them after the body is complete. Any ideas?

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5 years 2 months ago #15 by CyNaKyL
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I assembled them "in situ" in order to get everything to sit where it should and removed them once the glue had set. Some people attach them, mask them off and do them after the rest of the kit is finished, others (like me) leave them off and paint them separate and add them last, that way avoiding any breakages. Some kits you need to have the gear attached before finishing assembly but most can be added afterwards.

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5 years 2 months ago #16 by grover
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Thanks, I'll have a look at that tonight

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5 years 2 months ago #17 by grover
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So I started putting the Eduard Mask on last night and finished it this afternoon. Kinda handy but man the vision finder was a godsend. That and a good set of tweezers. Canopy is masked, inside and out.
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I have masked up one wing and plastered on some perfect plastic putty to see if its a suitable method of removing the step in the slat cut out
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I've prepped most of the small and internal parts ready for primer
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5 years 2 months ago #18 by grover
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After my first round of priming, I looked a bit closer at the front wheel well and saw a number whet might be ejector pin marks. Bloody hard, if not impossible to clean them all up but I started with the most prominent ones.
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I put some more putty on the wing leading edge to make a smoother finish. From the naked eye, once I sanded it, it looked pretty good, but on closer inspection it was still very rough with pits and holes, so I've taken it all off. Now I have Im actually rethinking it and thinking I should give it another go.
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I added the centre hard point mount on the wing now, because I may as well :)
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And I started adding some colour to some of the ejector seat parts.
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Wanted to do a lot more tonight since I have to work tomorrow, but my wife is drunk and I have to look after her. On the up side, go the Black Caps. :)

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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #19 by CyNaKyL
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I didn't bother with the wing slat step on mine, since the camo scheme covers that part anyway I don't think it will be too noticeable (except to purists like Phil and Craig... :P).
I managed to remove almost all the pin marks in the nose gear bay using my hasegawa trytool chisel, it's nice and small (and rather sharp!) so I scraped them back with a few passes each and by the time I'd painted and put a wash in the gear bay, you can't really notice them.

I might actually try to finish the camo scheme on mine tomorrow after my job interview since I am actually feeling somewhat motivated for a change, that plus after talking to Alan and John at modelair for an hour or so on friday about how they challenged themselves to finish some kits from the shelf of shame I thought maybe I should do the same.

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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #20 by Maarten
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[/quote] Wanted to do a lot more tonight since I have to work tomorrow, but my wife is drunk and I have to look after her. On the up side, go the Black Caps. :)[/quote]

:blink: :lol: !

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5 years 2 months ago #21 by grover
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Help! I cant figure out where part D21, the small part on the right fits onto the landing gear. Ive looked at reference pics but cant see what it is, or where it goes. Can anyone show me please? :ohmy:
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #22 by Craig Sargent
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It's a cable conduit. Check out my Hasegawa A-4M build. You should get a better idea of where it goes.

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5 years 2 months ago #23 by grover
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Thanks Craig, I think I have it. :)

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5 years 2 months ago #24 by Bishop
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Looking good. Drunk wives and all heehee

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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #25 by Nosferatu
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Coming along real nice mate!!

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5 years 2 months ago #26 by grover
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Cheers Nos and Bish

Tonight I got to lay down some gloss white on some of the interior bits. Air intakes, wheel wells, wheels etc. Some of the landing gear is undergoing some final; sanding and hopfully I'll get to reprime tomorrow night.
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I've been thinking for a while how to mask.block up the air intakes to get a nice transition from camo to white. I decided to try just using foam cut to shape
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Worked quite nicely and I should be able to pull it out easily enough once the camo is all done.
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So that done I decided to attach the intakes to the fuselage. I'll be test fitting the rest of the intake and front fan blade as these took a bit of sanding to sit nicely. Im going to look at any filler and do my first attempt at re-scribing the intakes while the fuselage is still in halves to make it easier to handle.
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I decided in my wisdom to lay down some Mr Color Buffable metal on the fan blade by hand......
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and as soon as I got the brush close to the piece, it decided to spit paint everywhere. It's so thin it ran everywhere. I tried to be as clean as possible and even tried a cotton bud with a little isopro on it but it didnt do anything but smudge. Luckily there isnt too much and Ill take my time and clean it up by hand, but next time I'll lay down some masking tape
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Finally tonight I decided to put the wings together. Once I finish all the internals I'll be putting most of the body together for painting so this helps me reduce some clutter and hopefully will help protect the slat arms which have had a few knocks.
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5 years 2 months ago #27 by IAN
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Looks like you've got this well in hand, matey.

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5 years 2 months ago #28 by grover
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Thanks Ian, I hope so. ;)

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5 years 2 months ago #29 by Nosferatu
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Not long now until the halves go together! Looking good! Those pegs are great huh!!

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5 years 2 months ago #30 by grover
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Nosferatu wrote: Not long now until the halves go together! Looking good! Those pegs are great huh!!

Yeah. Good on ya Briscoes :D

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5 years 2 months ago #31 by Fritz
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Looking good! Cant wait to see this done :D

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