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Tamiya VW 1966 1/24 4 years 6 months ago #1

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Well after many years of not building a kit I somehow thought I could build a Tasca Firefly with PE parts etc. So after a little reality check I have decided to start a little easier (hopefully) with this little bug.
Main body parts got primed and base-coated today. I haven't airbrushed a car model before and it was a little trickier than I expected trying to get an even wet coat. Next I guess comes a clear coat. Any tips on either priming, base or clear-coating very welcome.





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Wow !! - seriously green :sick:

And to be honest, matey I don't see any advice needed on your 'wet coat'. It looks perfectly fine in your photos.

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IAN wrote: Wow !! - seriously green :sick:

And to be honest, matey I don't see any advice needed on your 'wet coat'. It looks perfectly fine in your photos.

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What Ian said, it looks awesome.

Have wanted to get one of these for a while now so will be watching this closely :)

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Looking good in green :)
Mint paint job Paul :cheer:
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Looking good Paul.
I'm following with interest as a Tamiya 1/24 Beetle will someday be part of my "Surfing in the 70s" diorama.
Can't wait to see more ...
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Beautiful, love the colour :)
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Thanks Ian, Michael, Glenn, Tiger :) The base coat here is Tamiya X-15 Light Green and yep it's seriously Green alright!
Wally, the 70's surf diorama sounds very cool!

Well I applied some Tamiya X22 clear coat. After some mucking around with viscocity it seemed to spray pretty well. But I kept getting little bits of crap landing in it due to windy day here which was annoying trying to pluck crap out and then spary over the blemish. So it certainly aint perfect but I'm pretty happy with overall result for a first effort. What clear coat products do you guys use?
For primer I used Tamiya XF-12 J.N. Grey but I wonder if a gloss primer would be more appropriate for a gloss base colour.



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I think you've done a great job, matey.

Since you asked about 'priming' - I use Tamiyas acrylic grey or white primer straight from the rattle-can for larger (1;24/25 car) projects. My favourite trick for getting a super-smooth base-coat is to simply buff this with an old cotton t-shirt to an overall satin sheen then apply my wet-coats on top of that.






This Buick and the Chevy were 'prepped' using this method and finished with simple Humbrol enamels, and a coat of Johnsons Klear/Future after decalling. They came out very nicely (if I say so m'self).

My current NASCAR project is this AMT/Ertl 96 Thunderbird, which was again 'prepped' the same way but topped with three coats of Tamiya acrylic red (X7) sprayed at relatively high pressure and cut with just 25% thinner as opposed to the usual 35 or 40%





Just find what works for you, but I highly recommend buffing the base-coat as I mentioned.

HTH

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Cheers Ian. So when you say "My favourite trick for getting a super-smooth base-coat is to simply buff this with an old cotton t-shirt to an overall satin sheen then apply my wet-coats on top of that" do you mean you buff the primer or the base or both with the cotton t-shirt. And what wet-coats are you referring to - base-coat or clear or both?

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OK, I see the confusion that I caused... sorry.

Simply put - I always primer, always. I don't always use a base coat.

The first paint I shoot will be either of the Tamiya primers, when they're cured I buff them out as mentioned above. If I'm then adding a base coat, - like I have for the Thunderbird (Tamiya flat red), I'll usually do that in one coat, and again buff it out with the cotton T-shirt. Then I'll start layering the final top coats.

Whether I apply a base coat depends upon the final coat/colour the model is going to be. The Chevy got a grey primer coat, followed by a white base coat, then two or three top coats of gloss white, then sealed with Klear/Future, then masked and sprayed a matt dark green which was buffed back and then hit with two coats of dark green Humbrol enamel !!

It's complicated sometimes, but that's part of the process, especially when you're going for two or more high contrast colours - NASCAR racers are sort of notorious for that !!.

Hope this clarifies my earlier post.

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Thanks for the explanation Ian, that process looks to get some nice results for you!
I have removed chrome from some of the parts. Not sure what colour I'll repaint them yet and not sure if I'll leave hub caps chromed or not.

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I built quite a few models as a kid in the 70’s and 2 or 3 since then but I'm really starting all over again. I'd like to get my basic skills to a reasonable standard and hopefully this VW kit will be a good starting point.

I’ll try and follow the instructions methodically step by step - makes sense I guess. So first up I have assembled Step 1, then Step 2 of the engine. I’m not sure how I’m going to successfully paint the various components of the engine without getting paint on adjacent parts but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. I found this link helpful re various glues
www.scalemodelguide.com/construction/tec...glue-parts-together/

Being my first time using capillary action cement it was a novelty the way it gets sucked into the joins.
I'm liking the limoline low odour feature. Comparitively when I opened the orange capped Tamiya it stunk to high heaven!

The Xuron 2175ET sprue cutters seem very nice to use so far.





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More little steps. Getting a sense of how the different glues behave, how best to cut & tidy the parts. I'm thinking it's going to be trial and error for me to find what works.









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Looking fine.

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Cheers Ian, no doubt this is very fundamental stuff for the experienced modellers here but its a good exercise for me to plod away methodically and learn the basics :)







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Looks to be coming together nicely PJ. Not sure about that shade of green though heheh although I'm slowly warming to it.
Following with interest ;)
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I've found that in this hobby it certainly help s me to go back and re-visit the basics from time-to-time, hence the Thunderbird project I'm doing, I'm simply re-learning the skills I'll need for other NASCAR builds.

In short, I'm re-learning by watching you do this.... So keep the photos and observations coming, matey ;)

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Hi

Are you going to paint the engine / chassis after assembling?

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Really nice kit (as Tamiya always are) and love the colour! Can't wait to see this 1 finished!!
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I will keep plodding away and posting my progress pics, observations and wonderings. Re Michael’s question yes I am painting after assembly in this project. From my observation of builds online I concluded that is normally how it’s done these days. But I have found it a little tricky trying to get complete coverage over tucked away areas. It didn’t help that my lighting was poor. Also I’m not sure how I will successfully paint some parts (with conventional brush) without smudging other parts.

So I’m now wondering if it’s case by case whether a part should be painted before or after assembly. What do you guys think?

I need to invest in some gloves. Also I have been looking on-line at home made spray booths. Anyone built a successful one or used a commercial one that they like?

I found I needed to heavily reduce the primer to get a thin enough spray that wasn’t too grainy especially into little nooks and crannies. There are some areas where it’s not smooth enough in my opinion but overall it seemed to have come out ok. I would appreciate any comments, or recommendations on the priming and also how to paint individual bits from here without smudging adjacent bits.

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Personally I only spray large parts and hand paint the detail/individual bits. I do sometimes assemble some of the parts before painting but only if it's all the same colour and again a large area like a nascar chassis and roll cage. Or if there are a lot of individual bits that require the same colour then I spray them as well before putting them together, then touch up after assembly.
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Going back to getting a glossy top coat, a trick I use is to thin the final coat so it is almost pure thinner. It seems to smooth and gloss up the paint really nicely. Obviously you can't spray it too thickly or it will run. It seems to work really well if you have a problem with paint drying too quickly on the model and appearing matt.
I typically wait until the airbrush is nearly empty then add thinner, give it a quick back wash (hold a tissue over the nozzle and squeeze the trigger) to mix it up, then spray away. This works especially well with decanted Tamiya TS and Tamiya Lacquer Thinner.
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ricksmodelkits wrote: Personally I only spray large parts and hand paint the detail/individual bits. I do sometimes assemble some of the parts before painting but only if it's all the same colour and again a large area like a nascar chassis and roll cage. Or if there are a lot of individual bits that require the same colour then I spray them as well before putting them together, then touch up after assembly.


Kind of do the same, armor is more assemble then paint but with so may small bits and different colors in auto builds painting first I find better.

But note something I have only just started to do myself is mask off the glue points before painting, this helps heaps when it comes to assemble.

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Edit - What primer are you using PJNZ?
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Some good tips there guys and Fxena I like the idea of washing a coat of super thinned paint over the last coat to smooth the texture. Ive ordered some micro mesh polishing pads to see what affect they have on the body paintwork. Will be interesting..

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Painting the wheels - I decided on a green and white colour scheme for the wheels with the chrome caps. Hopefully should compliment the green body nicely. I found videos online of people rotating the wheel slowly in a drill and hand-painting the contrasting colour. I liked this idea and was keen to give it a but in the end I opted for masking and spraying. The masking was fiddly and the result certainly isn't perfect, but not too bad.











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Interesting stuff. Keep it coming ...
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Does anyone have any tips on removing seam flash down centre of tyre...? Have tried filing and cutting with limited success..

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Hmm... is it too late to try and customise this thing...?

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Looking good Paul :)
You need to spin those wheels and burn some rubber, :lol:
Removing the flash from rubber tyres is a pain,maybe spin them mounted on a battery drill or dremmel and sand that flash seam off. :cheer:
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Here is a helpful tyre tutorial

italianhorses.net/Tutorials/TireScuff/tires.htm
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