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Lotus 72C in 1/20 by EBBRO 6 years 6 months ago #2

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My favourite F1 days where the days of Senna and Mansell, my favourite track is Monnaco as I have strong memories of Mansell and Senna screaming down the tunnel battling it out for first place, classic days. I also associate Fleetwood Mac's "the Chain" with F1 as that was the title music to ITV's coverage of the F1.
A few years later I found myself working in Monnaco and while out in a rental car found myself by accident dropping down the hill and seeing the marina ahead of me and the tunnel coming up, what a shame I was in a Ford Escort and not a Marlboro Mclaren :)
Le Mans cars are another good topic especially the concept and LMR classes, ah the good old roar of the Panoz straight 12 monster, sounds like thunder, goes like lightning.

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Lotus 72C in 1/20 by EBBRO 6 years 6 months ago #3

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Gary wrote: My favourite F1 days where the days of Senna and Mansell, my favourite track is Monnaco as I have strong memories of Mansell and Senna screaming down the tunnel battling it out for first place, classic days. I also associate Fleetwood Mac's "the Chain" with F1 as that was the title music to ITV's coverage of the F1.
A few years later I found myself working in Monnaco and while out in a rental car found myself by accident dropping down the hill and seeing the marina ahead of me and the tunnel coming up, what a shame I was in a Ford Escort and not a Marlboro Mclaren :)
Le Mans cars are another good topic especially the concept and LMR classes, ah the good old roar of the Panoz straight 12 monster, sounds like thunder, goes like lightning.


Boy you get around Gary! Monaco must have been an amazing place, even in a Escort :) Whilst it isn't my favourite race it would still be to one I would go to if money was no object. Imagine looking down from one of those trackside apartments, or hotels eating nibbles and sipping some of the good stuff. I went to the OZ GP in 05 and that was a hoot. Sat directly by the start/finish line looking across at the Ferrari pits. I'd swear my ears are still ringing.. Don't get me started on Le Mans, although I'd have to find a time machine and go back 40 or 50 years to see my favourite races..

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LE Mans is an awesome event, and needs at least 5 full days to appreciate. We used to drive over on a Thursday with the beer loaded on to the Transit van, bikes strapped all over the roof and back and then spend the weekend cycling round the track stopping at certain vantage points to drink beer and watch the race.
I've worked over a lot of Europe, mostly doing short term site surveys for American Express, also been to parts of the Middle East and North Africa doing other work.

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Gary wrote: LE Mans is an awesome event, and needs at least 5 full days to appreciate. We used to drive over on a Thursday with the beer loaded on to the Transit van, bikes strapped all over the roof and back and then spend the weekend cycling round the track stopping at certain vantage points to drink beer and watch the race.
I've worked over a lot of Europe, mostly doing short term site surveys for American Express, also been to parts of the Middle East and North Africa doing other work.


Would have loved that. I have read a lot about Le Mans and made a few models. Oh and 20+ years ago I had a Mk1 Transit and I do quite like a drink!

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I don't drink any more but I do have some photos of Le Mans :)

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Lotus 72C in 1/20 by EBBRO 6 years 6 months ago #7

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I never new Ebbro made plastic kits!
I also collect 1/43 scale diecast Datsun/Nissan Z cars, and have probably close to 100 Ebbro ones... plus many others.. :)

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Gary wrote: I don't drink any more but I do have some photos of Le Mans :)

You wern't there in '96 were you? I am building an F40GTE right now from that race..

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Lotus 72C in 1/20 by EBBRO 6 years 6 months ago #9

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grunzter wrote: I never new Ebbro made plastic kits!
I also collect 1/43 scale diecast Datsun/Nissan Z cars, and have probably close to 100 Ebbro ones... plus many others.. :)

mmm another car guy in the closet.. I see by your avatar you aren't quite in the closet ;) Seem there are a few of you out there.. It gets a little lonely being a car builder in NZ. My brother(lives in OZ) has a little 1200SSS which is his race car. In a garage somewhere in Hamilton I think. My uncle also has a 1200SSS which has been his race car for the last 30+ years. It's pretty mint as it hasn't done many miles only being a race car for most of its life.

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Yes you got me, my avatar is a Nissan North America works Datsun 280zx IMSA GTU car driven by the late actor Paul Newman.

I am building a replica at the moment in my garage, hopefully it will be on the track later this year, but i have been saying that for about 3 years now... :)
The picture below is a few months ago when it left the painters.

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grunzter wrote: Yes you got me, my avatar is a Nissan North America works Datsun 280zx IMSA GTU car driven by the late actor Paul Newman.

I am building a replica at the moment in my garage, hopefully it will be on the track later this year, but i have been saying that for about 3 years now... :)
The picture below is a few months ago when it left the painters.


That's too cool for school :cheer: I hope you get it up and running soon. I'd love to see it! I like to get to the big Mansfield event when I can, hope you can make it there sometime. I also would love to see some auto models come from your garage. I understand though with modeling that you have to scratch the itch that itches! I have done a couple of planes and Sci-Fi in the last couple of years and many more subjects in the years previous, but the autos always drag me back..

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Yeh, it will be down at Manfield one day...
I used to be nuts about 1/72 aircraft, but the stash got to large and realized it was impossible to build them all, so now more or less staying with Armour as my number one, and military aircraft as my number 2...

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Lotus 72C in 1/20 by EBBRO 6 years 5 months ago #13

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The kit chrome is very nice, actually it could even be the best I have come across. But like usual it doesn't hide the seam lines etc, so off it came. If they could find a way of including a bit of a cleanup before chroming I wouldn't strip so much of it. I used 'Easy Off' oven cleaner(the powerful stuff). I had to go away for a good 12 hours and was happy to find that it had also stripped the clear undercoat which is normally very hard to remove. The red body part here was being used as a jig whilst cementing the roll hoop together in prep for my chroming..
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Main body parts prepped and primed. I spent a while getting to this stage, partly because I was getting things neat and tidy and partly because of the red styrene. I was on to my third coat of Tamiya white primer and there was still a faint pink hue bleeding through from the dye in the red styrene. So what happens is you get a faint shade of pink in your white :( I was enjoying the kit very much but wish the makers would just use white styrene! I have heard that the Tamiya grey primer also has the same bleed through. I have also since heard that silver can work as a good barrier and even the clear can work. The problem with Tamiya clear lacquer is that it hardens at a different rate than their other colours, meaning you may invite cracking at a later date. Hiroboy in England has a good barrier product for sale I believe but they are not shipping paint products overseas the last I heard. I am sure if I had a go with different brands of primer I would find a good one, but will try silver first next time..


The main body tub is made from three pieces, split down the middle with a rear bulkhead. I added some stiffeners to the underside to strengthen it for later handling. I spend so long buffing out paint I can get quite rough some times!



This nose piece is made from an upper and lower. It took a while to smooth out as it is quite fine. Mine was also warped, probably because it had been shown to a few people and been re-packed a few times. No worries, some hot water fixed that:)
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Looking good, nice and clean
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Thanks Tiger :)

I may as well show some more of those primed pieces..

The air box is made up from 4 parts. I spent a long time smoothing everything out once joined as the parts are fraglie and finely cast, and there was some filling required. On the plus side the air openings turn out lovely and are well worth the time. Often with parts like this you are left to paint out the opening with black, or drilling and filing it out to create depth. In this case however it is all open which is great.


I shaved the wing locator tabs and drilled some 0.35 holes in the endplates and wing ends. I will use some steel rivets to join them later.


The screen is moulded in transparent yellow which is great. I hate having to paint glass! The lower half is body red so I have masked and primed with white in preparation.. I also shaved the rivets and drilled 0.5 holes so I can mount with aluminium rivets later.
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Paint paint paint... Two coats of primer, three of gloss white and two red, sanding between all coats and re-masking the screen each time. I still had to do the gold here, and also the white number roundel on the nose along with the 2 Pack gloss clearcoat. The reason I painted everything gloss white and then masked off the red was to keep the red uniform in different lights. For the same reason I have painted the front wings red, so when they are painted gold they will be the same shade as the nose. The good news for me was I seemed to have lost the pink hue in the white areas, although my mind was still plays tricks!
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I got to ask, what do you glue them all together with? Sheesh if I made something with as good a finish as these I'd trash them while gluing them up, I assume you check all the fits 3 or 4 times prior to painting?

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Gary wrote: I got to ask, what do you glue them all together with? Sheesh if I made something with as good a finish as these I'd trash them while gluing them up, I assume you check all the fits 3 or 4 times prior to painting?


Gary, I look at what you do and think "blimmin eck" and "that's tricky" and "how'd he do that?" Glue on my finish gives me nightmares too.. I mostly use super glue and the thin Tamiya bottle cement on unpainted parts. When I am joining painted or finished parts I tend to use 2 part epoxy and white glue. White glue holds suprisingly well and can be done again if you stuff up. Epoxy holds very well and also has a period when drying where it is not quite hard where you can chip away at it then with a toothpick and remove the odd little bit, or the whole lot sometimes! I do a lot of pinning and finding ways to glue things from behind and a lot of riveting with the likes of HobbyDesign steel rivets or Model Factory Hiro aluminium rivets. Lots of test fitting and prep, so I have my plan of attack before I am handling painted parts. Funny I haven't owned a tube of model glue since I can remember..

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Number roundel and gold painted. I planned to still use the decal for the roundel but just wanted a good white base to go under it. I used Alclad11 "Pale gold" for the gold which turned out to be a good match for the gold in the decals. I had purchased a can of Power Plus touch up paint as they also had the perfect match. The paint in the can however was all lumpy and way past it's best. I remember using the same stuff over 15 years ago and the metallics were the same then. You have to shake them until your arm falls off and then try to clear out all of the nasty stuff out. Then when you think you have them all, there are more surprises. Then the can blocks up again and you throw it away feeling grumpy. Sorry to rant, but I don't know how they can still sell the same stuff..


Well the number decal didn't turn out well so I am trying a different approach. It is a very thin sheet of self adhesive white vinyl put out by Hasegawa. I have used their semi gloss black sheet before with excellent results.


For a perfect circle I didn't trust the blade in my compass cutter, so snapped a new scalpel blade and glued it in place..


A perfect circle. I put down water so I was able to slide it into position then worked out the water with a large soft brush. I think I will use these roundels where ever possible from now on. I have also clear coated the whole nose over the roundel and decals with 2 pack clear and rubbed it out.
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The windscreen one step further along, decaled and clear coated.


Clear coated air box.
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Decaled and clear coated. I got the Gold Leaf decals from Hobby Link Japan. It is put out by Ebbro but is much nicer than the kit decals, being thinner,crisper,better resolution etc. I hope this means Ebbro have changed their decals for future kits :cheer:


Side scoops decaled and clear coated.


Wing elements decaled and clear coated.
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I had shaved off a little wind splitter or air deflector from the nose before laying down the gold paint. I made a new one from two 1mm x 0.4mm styrene strips. I attached with five 0.75 x 0.35 rivets from Hobby Design. I painted with Alclad11 Aluminium.



I added a couple of etch Deutz fasteners and the wings. I added the numbers over the clear and the nose is ready..
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I always fear doing wings on F1 cars. There is so much that can go wrong. Whether it be getting them straight, glue showing, falling apart, yarda yarda etc.. I used a very small amount of epoxy to start me off with the lower wing then taped everything in place. I had pre-drilled holes in the end plates and wings and am dropping in the rivets from above with a tiny amount of epoxy glue to keep them snug. The whole assembly fits together very nicely which helps!


The morning after and all is well.

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Another great build eyepaule, love your work.
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Michaels Models wrote: Another great build eyepaule, love your work.

Thanks Michael. I really wish my 10yr old called Michael was interested in making models! Oh well, more for me :)

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40+ parts prepped and coated with black lacquer ready for chrome or polished aluminuim Alclad11. Alclad recommends black enamel as a base, but I find Tamiya black lacquer decanted and airbrushed to work well. If I was doing the British G.P I would have only needed to do about half of the chrome as many parts were matt black. I chose the German G.P as I thought it would be nice to do a Nürburgring car. It turns out they raced at Hockenheimring in 1970 anyway...


I was waiting for some Model Factory Hiro fuel tube to arrive. Here the the injectors are prepped with 0.20 wire which should fit the tube.
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The tires come with the stripes and letters printed, all I had to do was spin them up on some sandpaer with my drill to add some wear. I airbrushed the rims with Alclad II Polished Aluminium. I added some wheel weights and then taped over them with BMF.
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AWSOME :-)
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Tiger wrote: AWSOME :-)
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Thanks Tiger :)

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Lots of chrome. Gosh darn it I have gone through half a bottle of Alclad II! I hope to be doing the Lotus 49 soon, and plenty of chrome there too..

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