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Trumpeter 1:16 Tiger II two in one (sort of) 5 months 3 weeks ago #31

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Trumpeter 1:16 Tiger II two in one (sort of) 5 months 3 weeks ago #32

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The next part of the build has arrived, the HL Tiger II with preproduction turret. I will use the hull and barrel from this along with the Trumpeter turret to make the second tank. The one HL did for this is perhaps their most toy like. Too much work to be bothered, but the hull is pretty much the same one as on the Production turret version I did previously so its a good foundation to work with. It is as per usual all now in bits. I will build the two side by side so that I can make the interior bits as copies of the interior bits I'm putting together from the Trumpeter kit. I'll end up with a late 44 Tiger used in the Bulge and the famous prep-production example seen in photos both before Tiger production began in earnest and after the war along side the hull of the huge Tiger Grille and a Panther. This super early Tiger II had rear fenders as front fenders, which is how it can be recognised in the post war shot.

Quick photos before the destruction. Such a big model

Sitting on the enormous kit box



Two shots of the toy turret





It has useful parts such as the cupola and the loader's hatch, but the rear hatch is just too much hard work. I may put it all together and make a turret under construction kit of diorama, but we'll see.
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As a correction, the word I was looking for was Prototype not just preproduction. And, it is a Jagdtiger beside it not the Grille. Anyway the shots I was talking about. FOR DISCUSSION ONLY, ALL COPYRIGHT ACKNOWLEDGED.

During the war



The side shot as seen on Achtung Panzer



And the after war shot.



I have spare rear fenders which will easily fill the role. The only modifications I will need to make to the turret are to add the commander's pistol port and the larger communications port, both dropped from the 50 preproduction turrets. I can also use the nice metal HL barrel rather than the two piece Trumpeter one. Not sure why Trumpeter went for the two have barrels. Hate having to remove the seams. I'll have to use the Production turret one from the Trumpeter kit so at least one metal one is a help.
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What I've just noted is that the top shot shows the Tiger with transport tracks and the middle and post war shots have the standard tracks. I'll go this route.

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And two final shots, one of the line up including the preproduction Tiger II with the blown barrel and then the Grille next to that. I new the Grille was in there somewhere.





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Trumpeter 1:16 Tiger II two in one (sort of) 5 months 2 weeks ago #36

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So, the HL Tiger II is in bits and the Trumpeter box is open. I've removed the tracks so that I can start on them and I've also removed the preproduction Krupp turret to add to the HL hull. I will give it to HL, the hull and the base of the Trumpeter turret mate almost perfectly. I need to remove the tiniest bit from the inside of the turret ring armoured cover so that the turret can rotate freely on the hull top, but otherwise the scale matches beautifully. I've also ordered replacement exhausts and armoured covers for the HL hull from Tank Army, along with engine deck screens. At $26 AU for the lot it is worth it as the kit exhausts are okay, but the armoured covers need extra work that is already included in the aftermarket ones. Having seen how well the Trumpeter turret mates to the HL hull I'm now starting to get excited about this ridiculous double project. Just need that book now.

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I've now started the tracks for the Trumpeter Tiger and thankfully they're very nicely molded. Sadly the famous links between the tracks are as always, full of ejection pin marks. These really need to be filled if one is to get one's money's worth out of this kit so I now have a few days full of bog ahead of me. It is the perfect job for my horrid Tamiya filler and will be very easy to clean up when done. The only trouble is that there are so many to fill. The other good news is that they go together easily. I will need 46 pairs a side and then some spares for the turret. I also have some HL spares for the other turret if needed. I really need to choose which prototype I'm making as I think the third one had turret tracks and all the equipment, but the first and second didn't. These three were actually made in mild steel so that everything could be tested and then the rest were production spec.

One of the misnomers about the Tiger II relates to the two turrets, known as Porsche and Henschel turrets. Both were, in fact, made by Krupp, Henschel and Porsche making the hulls. The Porsche hull was rejected, the Henschel hull taking both the Krupp turrets. Why the rounded one was ever considered I have no idea. It clearly had a whopping shot trap below the gun, alleviated in the production design.









All very boring for the next few days, but they will look great
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Crikey that's a fair bit of filling to do.
See you in a few days.
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This hobby wouldn't be what it is without patience... but that would test me that's for sure... Best of luck
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And that's what's so horrid about Tamiya filler. Heehee, the HL turret really isn't up to scratch so I may make it into a wrecked turret diorama. Actually that would work now that I come to think of it.

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Trumpeter 1:16 Tiger II two in one (sort of) 4 months 4 weeks ago #42

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The book has arrived so it is full steam ahead. In hard cover it is heavier than the kit. Magnificent is a good description. Thanks David for the heads up.

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Trumpeter 1:16 Tiger II two in one (sort of) 4 months 3 weeks ago #43

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The book



This wonderful publication will show you "how its done", and inspire you on any build you try. This guy set the bench mark. I really good reference for Tiger IIs.

The floor of V1 now ready for filling and sanding. I'll scratch build the interior as I put the other interior together. The kit interior needs an enormous amount of work so this is going to take a couple of years.



And the roughed out replacement exhausts ready for completion later



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Turning to the kit

The completed tracks



And the first adjustment to be made to the hull. For some reason the sponson floors are molded at a slight downwards angle. This creates problems once the interior is glued in place and one tries then to glue the hull together. There are real problems trying to bend everything to fit. So the suggestion is to correct this before anything else is done then everything builds up into the right shape. This photo shows everything now sitting level. The fix involved running the razor saw along the corners where the hull side and sponson floor meets and simply bending to the right position and filling with plastic strips and CA glue. This is now all dry so can be sanded back to the correct shape ready for weld beads. The welding will cover anything astray and add strength too.



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Nice Bishop, bet you are happy with the reading material :woohoo:

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A tiny update. I'm holding off on these two Tigers while I order various bits and pieces to replace things. I've made a second order with AFV Modeler for various replacement bits, as the kit bits aren't up to scratch. However, I will be able to use them in the second Tiger so they won't be wasted. I will make one more order next month and that should do it. I'm sure there will be other things along the way, like the barrel. I've collected a few BNA points so used them today to buy a replacement barrel for the production Turret. The Trumpeter one is in two parts and I'm just too old to be bothered trying to sort out seams. So glad when DML introduced nice solid ones, and when people started making aftermarket ones too.

The barrel from Aber, comes in three parts as per the original. It doesn't include the muzzle brake as the kit one will be fine and will help reduce the weight of the barrel. One of the problems when using a metal barrel is getting it to sit right due to the weight. There are fixes, but less weight at the business end will help.

The barrel and seam. I dug this out to see how bad the seam was and ordered the replacement while the glue was drying.







So, next up, more waiting while I work on the Pz IV
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More goodies have arrived from AFV Modeler so I've made a final order. There is more I could get, but no money so once everything has arrived the scratch building can begin. Watch this space

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The barrel has arrived from BNA and is beautiful. I've got to take some shots. I really want to start these now, but will wait for the other goodies to arrive and keep working on the Pz IV. I have enough to work with for all these kits so there is a lot of scratch work ahead.

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Must be mad. Just bought the JagdTiger to go with these two from BNA. It's even bigger. I have no idea where I'll store this triple build when they're all done. Stay tuned.

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I have no idea where you store anything you do. They need their own garage ;)
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I've seen photos of the 1/16 Jagdtiger and it's huge. I'm not a huge armour fan, but the Jagdtiger would probably be my favourite looker.
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Bishop wrote: Just bought the JagdTiger


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What........another one, mate there are pills you can take to fix this :silly: :P
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The JagdTiger has arrived thanks to BNA and Australia Post. I think I'd better start a new thread about a Tiger family monster build. First up I'll get the tracks out of the way as I did on the Trumpeter ii (same fill and sand job, more tracks), and do the prep on the lower hull. Then everyone will be at the same point in the build. Photos in the new thread.

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Ridiculously big. This will indeed be a monster build



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The good news is that the track with teeth is good, the bad news as from last time is that the joining tracks without teeth have many ejection pin marks to fill. No hurry, 10 a day will see them sorted. I just don't want to do this at the business end of the project. Like having to do the bibliography after finishing the assignment.



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Gracious this is big. Hull comparisons

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With the Tiger ii hull (Trumpeter)



And the Heng Long as well. The HL is spot on for size which is good.



And the box (on top of the other huge Trumpeter box),
taking up the corner of the room.



Now back to the Pz iv (and filling 10 links).
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Bishop wrote: Ridiculously big. This will indeed be a monster build


:ohmy: Yep, that's pretty big... Bishop, do you buy your Tamiya extra thin cement in a 6 pack per chance?! :lol:
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Bishop wrote: Ridiculously big. This will indeed be a monster build


:ohmy: Yep, that's pretty big... Bishop, do you buy your Tamiya extra thin cement in a 6 pack per chance?! :lol:

And have shares in Evergreen lol

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I've just brought a Takom king tiger with zirmitt what a beast.

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