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The Tiger ii family build 1:16 1 year 4 weeks ago #391

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More cleaning up to do but almost ready to install

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The Tiger ii family build 1:16 1 year 3 weeks ago #393

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Today I’ve been making wiring loam cables, three for each transmission, one each for each battery box and there will be one more each for the rear end of the cable conduits. I thought it would be a nightmare, but the tape and the solder made it easy. The solder will also make it easy to shape the wiring too. The oil cans and inspection lights are also in.

I’ve also bought my first bottle of vallejo paint. Calvary brown is the perfect match for my red oxide. This is making touch ups a breeze. David Parker uses this for his red oxide which is what made me hunt some up.

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Cables made with solder and 1mm masking tape



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The JagdTiger



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And the oil cans and inspection lamps

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The paint

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The wires are all done bar two and the drive trains are all test fitted. Various things had to be adjusted so the shafts would fit the distances, but everyone is now happy. This means I can glue them in place and keep building. I just need to make sure I can reach various items to paint them before I glue.

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JagdTiger. This needed most adjusting as I’d made the non turret turning hydrolic unit too short in behind each shaft connector. Sorted. The forward shat was to be used in the HL Tiger, but was just too long. I slightly shortened the scratched one destined for the JagdTiger and used it in the HL instead. Hence the extra centre now gluing into the front of the JagdTiger forward shaft. I’m amazed they all fit.

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The three drivetrains are in and most of the cables. The next thing is the fuel lines and then the batteries can be hooked up and added. Once that is done all the details can be painted and the whole lot weathered within the fighting compartments. The crew floors for the Tigers will appear at this point. Then it’s back to the engines. Once these are done as per the fighting compartments it’s time for the upper hull details MGs, demolition charges, the forward bulkhead details and ammo bags in the Tigers and so forth. Then it’s time for the worst part of the Tiger builds, the hull ammunition racks. Life may well duck at about that time.

In the JagdTiger things are a little different as there is no turret. Various ammunition racks will also appear and the bow MG as well, but the gun and upper hull will be sorted along side the two Tiger turrets.

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Transmissions glued in.

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JagdTiger





Trumpeter Tiger



Turret drive motor wires kind of in place. The earth wire in both Tigers still needs a mounting point on the throttle linkage cover running to the firewall



There is a bit of CA around the place, but touch ups will be easy with the cavalry brown paint. I also need to do the first of the welds filling the holes where the firewalls attach to the hull sponson floors. The sheel racks will hide the seams, but the putty will give strength to the whole thing.

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Looking at the fuel line situation today I’ve realised that I’ve attached the radiator air ducting too high up the sides of the radiators. So all eight have been pulled off the four radiators and properly attached in the right spot. They now fit correctly and more easily too. Sadly I’ll have to use all the piping in the two engine bays as it turns out you can see it all even with the radiators in place so there is nothing spare for the HL interior. Two fuel lines are now under construction to sort this with the simpler second pair to follow. Starting to enjoy this a little. I’m really missing the construction side of things so it was nice to attack the radiators.

Reconstructed radiators and one in the JagdTiger





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And fuel lines. A shot of the thick and thin ones, there are two pairs, and of the parts to make a thick set for the HL Tiger.







These are the interior lines from the firewall to the interior tanks under the crew.
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The Tiger ii family build 1:16 1 year 2 weeks ago #401

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The large interior fuel lines are now in place between the firewall and the large internal tanks. All scratched together the look better than the dreadful kit ones. The thin lines are under construction.

All the engine area fuel lines are in place and just need some paint. Sadly they can just be seen below the radiators so in they go. Though the kit pipes are dreadful, they do fit nicely. If only Trumpeter had molded them properly they would have been fine.

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Scratched HL large fuel lines in place





HL Thin fuel lines under construction beside kit examples



Large kit fuel lines for the two Trumpeters



Talk about the Flash!!

And shots off the engine bay fuel lines waiting for paint

JagdTiger



Tiger

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And now all internal fuel lines in the Trumpeters

JagdTiger



Tiger

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So the fuel lines are all in as are the air ducts from the transmissions to the floor ducting that ends up at the sirocco fans in the engine bays. You can’t see the piping and some of it doesn’t fit very well curtesy of the reshaped radiator ducting, but there it is. I’ve also put the rear back on the HL Tiger as I needed to adjust the thickness of the hull roof to fit the scratched firewall. Thank goodness for dremels. Now it’s back to moving foward through the hull with details. I’ll very shortly be adding the oil reservoirs that sit behind the transmissions. More detail to paint yet though.

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Trumpeter Tiger



JagdTiger



HL Tiger



And transmission air ducting



And the radiators in the Trumpeter Tiger



So much for the pipes

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I’m also starting to prepare the power supply units for the compasses. Here they are with cabling that will head to the batteries in the rear.

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Turns out the forward oil reservoirs did need to go in next. This will allow me to finally glue down the cable conduit that runs to the firewall from the driver’s console. Three have fitted nicely thankfully. Now I can weather and paint extra details in the forward crew area and then add the drivers’ seats.

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The HL



The Trumpeter Tiger



The JagdTiger (note the different legs used simplified the mounting of the reservoir)



And with the gun cradle just sitting in place above it.

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A final shot for today of the two pipes which go from the rear oil reservoir to the forward one. Two lines will run through the engine bay and meet up with these. Only the later Trumpeter Tiger needs these lines thank goodness. Lots of swearing went into this. Once again the solder saved the day.



This will all be painted to match the ivory so it will look nice again
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The batteries are now in and the oil lines and turret motor earth wires are done on the two Tigers. The lower hulls are now starting to look busy. The next thing is fitting the two Tiger crew floors. Fiddly, but they should be okay. The main thing is to get the dimensions of the new floors matched to the kit parts, then the turrets will fit. Then it’s back to painting details

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Tigers first

Trumpeter



And oil lines



HL



And finally the JagdTiger

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Very pleased to say that the crew floors have been fitted, but not glued. They will be painted up, but only glued in place when the turret basket has been completed for each and final adjustments can be made. The Trumpeter Tiger will be fine as the plates match the position of the kit ones. The HL Tiger May be a bit of a different story. We shall see. Gluing the plates down will stop the warping and the hide only a little.


HL first



Trumpeter Tiger



This aftermarket flooring is wonderful and I thank David Parker for putting me onto the correct scale
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Yeah that plating looks perfect.
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The drivers’ seats are now mostly painted. I need to sort out the straps that hold the cushions in place. They are still red oxide.

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Tony, if and when I ever get to making my 1/35 King Tiger with interior I don't think I'll need any more reference material than this build thread!!

Question for you. My mechanical curiosity has me trying to make sense of what this silver bit of detail represent in the attached photo? Is it a sliding spline or is perhaps a cog to drive something else? A sliding spline for purposes of maintenance removing the centre cv joint mechanism perhaps?

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A really good question. Each drive shaft has them so I wonder if they were in fact, as you suggest, a sliding spline to allow the shafts to be removed/ installed with the other items in the drivetrain in place. That way you could attach one end and bring the other end up to the universal joints say at either end of the turret traverse motor in the middle.

Just guessing so I’ll see what I can find out. They certainly aren’t cogs as such.

I must say, the person who’s work you really want to follow in all this is David Parker’s. I’m following his work and only doing bits of it. Same with the Pz IV I made over. Outstanding stuff, so much to learn from.

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Working on little things like the racks on the rear central section of the crew flooring. The racks are made for the first aid kit and for three ammunition containers. Sadly I don’t have any ammunition containers in 1:16 nor any weapons either. I’ve not found any in 1:16 that aren’t part of hugely expensive figure kits.

Anyway, I live the crew area for a bit and sort out the engine bays. Time to fit and glue.

Compared to the kit part



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Returning to the engine bays the radiator units are now all in so I can add various pipes. I thought I’d solve one of the fun problems which is how to get the angle of the pipe into the header correct? This pipe is the attachment point for the radiator connection hose that runs around the edge of the bay. It is the most prominent hose in the bay and the Trumpeter piece is dreadful. David Parker, amongst others, constructed a completely new hose set up and very kindly had copies made so the rest of us didn’t have to. I bought a hose set up for each bay and the only difficulty has been painting those hose clamps. Anyway, the solution to getting the right angle on the header inlet pipe is to glue a section of tube onto the completed pipe and drill a hole in the header that allows for the pipe to be glued at the right angle. Not rocket science, but it makes things a lot easier than trying to cut pipes to the right angle etc.

The crank engine starter set up has also been added to each engine. The engine bay bracing walls between the motors and header tanks are just sitting in each bay for now. The next set is the mounting of the pipes that attach to the radiator fans. Then everything else can go in over the top.

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Seats now ready for weathering and installation



The internal crank starter mechanisms



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And fun with header tanks and pipes

The hole that allows the pipe to be glued at the required angle



Piping slides in and can be glued and filled when the piping is attached to the rest of the engine bay



The clones of David Parker’s efforts





The whole effect just sitting in place for now

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This is called getting ahead of yourself. I’ve attached the headers so that I can plumb in the engine bay end of the oil lines, but I should have added the air pipes from the fan first. The large coolant pipe isn’t glued in yet, but I would have been stuffed if it had have been. Amazing to see how they managed to squeeze all this stuff in actually.

With fingers holding the pipe in place



Without



The bottom end

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Hi Bishop,

Just catching up with this project. It's comprehensive and a long haul from the start :lol:

But wow, what a superb effort in modelling these vehicles. As a mechanic, i am really loving what you are doing with the engine and driveline assemblies. Fantastic stuff, really impressive! B)

Just doing one of these would be a huge commitment, but doing multiples, blimey!

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Question for you. My mechanical curiosity has me trying to make sense of what this silver bit of detail represent in the attached photo? Is it a sliding spline or is perhaps a cog to drive something else? A sliding spline for purposes of maintenance removing the centre cv joint mechanism perhaps?


Definitely a splined slip joint for removal/installation of the shaft.
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Back at the bench after a quick interstate trip. Good to be home.

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The engine compartments are now almost finished. There is touching up of various parts and of some red oxide pieces to do, they’re just about ready for weathering. Once I’ve done the touch ups I’ll move back to the crew end and so the details. Once this is complete I’ll then sort the foward bulkheads for the two Tigers and the upper floor for the JagdTiger. I may even do that first as I’m itching to do more building, giving the painting a rest for a bit. So glad it all fits.

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JagdTiger



Much of the hull and turret in these are made in two halves to simulate the thickness of the armour hence the fact that all that is attached so far is the rear internal wall of the engine bay and not the exterior. This is very helpful when it comes to working on external details. You can do that with the thing flat on the bench and you don’t have to break stuff off fitting it to the back of the bay.



Tiger. Note the installed pipes from the oil header.





Now a sequence with the air filter components being sat in place. I won’t glue them down as I’ll then be able to see the carburettors latter.







The main water pipe is just sitting there for the shots. I’ll glue both in shortly.
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