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2 years 4 months ago #121 by Tiger
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2 years 4 months ago #122 by Bishop
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Another good day at the bench. The steering linkages and other items are now all in place in each hull so I can put the torsion bars together for the Trumpeters and make sure they fit. I’ve started making the required tubes that sit in the hull side walls. The kit ones are okay , but it is easy to make better ones and I need two for the HL Tiger so 6 are underway. I’ve almost completed the basic firewall layout for the HL Tiger so I can start construction the kit ones and copy components as I go. I can adjust the JagdTiger one at the same time. Once I’m this far it will be time to start on the transmissions.

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Tubes and what will become handles for three firewalls.



Firewall under construction



Finished linkages





And a floor covered in hulls


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2 years 4 months ago #123 by Fooesboy
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Watching your progress with a mixture of fear and awe wrapped up with a thick layer of respect!
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2 years 4 months ago #124 by Bishop
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The firewalls are now all prepared for construction, but I’ll let the HL one dry first. While waiting I’m filling in the notorious gaps between the fuel tanks on the Trumpeters. The Panther series they’re bring out should be fairly easy to construct as they’ve already incorrectly added so much of it to the Tigers. Lol. Easy fix with 4mm of plastic to fill the gaps in between. When cleaned up they all look great.

Once the firewalls are complete I’ll go back and add a few details I’ll forget otherwise and then start the transmissions. That’s where the real scratching fun begins.

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Fuel tanks with fillers drying waiting for fitting, sanding and bogging tomorrow


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2 years 4 months ago #125 by Bishop
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Hmmm make that 3.5mm. Sorted.

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2 years 4 months ago #126 by Terry
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Awesome sight seeing three chassis on the go at one time. Point to note - Bishop's modelling tools of trade: Hammer, chorded power drill and Sidchrome tool box. The drill I can understand - big kit, big holes, but the hammer? :S

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2 years 4 months ago #127 by Bishop
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Fillers added to the tanks



And the beginnings of various firewall fittings. I’m guessing crew heater




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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #128 by Bishop
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Lots done today, but only on one part, the crew heater thingy begun yesterday. It is now all nutted out and fits. So now lots of sanding to get all the curves right. This is by far the most complicated item. I couldn’t have copied it and made it fit without the kit part.

The Trumpeter example sitting in situ



The copy with lots of work to be done, but nutted out



Resting in place







Also of note, the first of the fuel tanks sanded. Needs filling now.



And a wonderful addition. Finally a comfortable new chair for the hours spent at the bench. The first ever modelling chair.



It is black so I can see the white plastic bits I drop on it.
Next up finish the heater piping, do the next fuel tank and start on the fire extinguisher. Again no less than two kit examples to follow. These too will have extra details to be added.

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2 years 4 months ago #129 by Fritz
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Your scratch building skills still blow my mind. Great work.

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2 years 4 months ago #130 by Bishop
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Many thanks, its lots of fun. Things are moving here I just don't have time to post shots until tonight. I've had to move the drive shaft hole to the left as, as it turns out, you can't just turn the firewall over when you put the wrong holes in the wrong place. Anyway, all sorted and I'm in the middle of the extinguisher at present.

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2 years 4 months ago #131 by Bishop
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Progress. The heater and extinguisher are both finished and those for the Trumpeters are now being cleaned up. The next major part of the firewall set up is the junction boxers and transformers. Groan.

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The wall layout complete



With heater added



And extinguisher



Finished



The three extinguishers (not sure if they sing or anything).



And on a Trumpeter firewall


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2 years 4 months ago #132 by Bishop
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Oh bother. Need to add the brackets to the extinguisher. More groans, but almost there.

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2 years 4 months ago #133 by Bishop
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So, I’m now constructing the rest of the bits that go onto the firewall and then I can finish the two Tiger examples. I can then concentrate on the JagdTiger firewall without getting confused.

The bits left to make and a shot of the missing collar around the bottom of the central section of the crew
heater. This is a separate piece in the kits.

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The finished extinguisher





The collar under construction



The rest of the bits


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2 years 4 months ago #134 by grover
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Damn, nice work on the extinguisher mate and like the new chair. Wonder how long it will stay that colour :)

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2 years 4 months ago #135 by Bishop
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Almost done with the firewall construction. I just need to finish the fuel primer pump and then I can assemble both firewalls and add the wiring. Then the JagdTiger.

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I thought I had a shot of all the finished handles, but I don’t. They’re done anyway.


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2 years 4 months ago #136 by Henry
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Very well done mate I hope when I do my Takom King Tiger it looks just as good as yours does

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2 years 4 months ago #137 by Bishop
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They’re beautiful kits you should enjoy it very much. Looking forward to seeing your progress.

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2 years 4 months ago #138 by Bishop
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I’m beginning to fix various components in place, iwiring things in as I go. The added wiring etc shows me just how much I’ll have to do to the Trumpeters, which lack the wiring detail replacing some with thick mouldings. A good week’s work ahead on those. Should finish this one today however.

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With crew heater just sitting there



And the extinguisher waiting for the pipe work to the engine bay to be ent into shape


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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #139 by Bishop
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Last of the wiring being sorted at present and this will be done. I’ll do the Trumpeters together now as I know what needs to be sorted and rewired which I can do as I go. Today I also managed to pick up a roll of self adhesive foil. Looks like a roll of masking tape, but you could sticky tape your fish into it ready for the oven. Super useful for things like brackets for wiring and for hose clamps etc. it was something David Parker began to use in his Super King (Tiger), build. Oh, I also need to add a cooling dome missing on the kit. Three of those to make tomorrow.

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Beauty shots from various angles







This shot also shows the extra wiring in plastic now added to the left hand side protruding from the flat conduit and the remaining wiring to be added sitting in front of the firewall



Lots of bits to now clean, but at least I don’t have to scratch them up



My Precious



And first clamp


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2 years 4 months ago #140 by Tiger
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Out blimmin standing Bishop.
Your scratch building skills still blow me away.
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2 years 4 months ago #141 by Bishop
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The HL firewall is now finished and the shared detail of the Trumpeters is underway. This will involve replacing cables, most of those created for the HL firewall. Then it will just be a matter gluing everything on the Tiger firewall and rearranging everything and gluing it on the JagdTiger firewall.

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Done



And sitting in place





Wire work removed





I hope to have these done this week, but I thought I’d finish the scratched firewall quickly. It is, however, becoming clear that to do this project properly nothing will go quickly.

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2 years 4 months ago #142 by Bishop
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Various wires and fuel lines being sorted. Various holes also being filled. Basically the fuel primer pump, the junction boxes and transformers have been rearranged and relocated. So the primer pump with the short fuel line will go on the JagdTiger as the pump was moved to where the power gear originally sat in the Tiger. The rearranged power gear for the JagdTiger goes further over to the right of the firewall (left hand side of the vehicle). It will all become clearer when the two firewalls are completed and sitting side by side.

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Fuel primer pumps, short line for the JagdTiger



The two power gear configurations. JagdTiger to the right



The JagdTiger firewall with holes being filled



And the Tiger firewall also with power cables gluing in place


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2 years 4 months ago #143 by Bishop
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And the firewalls staring to take shape

Electricals first

JagdTiger



And Tiger



Then fuel primers

Again JagdTiger first



And Tiger



I’m assuming they moved things to the side in the JagdTiger to give extra gun recoil room. The final scratch detailing will involve the extinguishers as per the HL firewall.

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2 years 4 months ago #144 by Maarten
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'' I could sense things were about to kick off, so I got out of there !''


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2 years 4 months ago #145 by Bishop
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Firewalls are done

Heng Long Tiger



Trumpeter Tiger



Trumpeter JagdTiger



Now for the other forward hull details and then the transmissions. I’m going to do these other details first so I don’t miss things. Looking forward to the transmissions though.

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2 years 4 months ago #146 by Bishop
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And a few of the items needed to complete the list of “other things”. It’s a long list. I may jump to the transmission for the HL Tiger while sorting other things just to keep things interesting.



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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #147 by Andrew
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Crazy good work Tony! :woohoo:

I cant believe how many errors Trumpeter let in to their 1/16 kits. I wonder if this is why the Ausf G Panther is taking so long. It is good to see they are learning to take on feedback about their WIPs (especially HB Panther Ausf A)

Sam Dwyer has some great work, have you seen his Meng Panther build on FB?

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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #148 by Bishop
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No I haven’t. I’m just very grateful for his JagdTiger build. The Panther should be very good. Just as long as they don’t mix early and late. The big surprise was the Pz iv mistakes. Thankfully David Parker has made a lot of corrected items to fix things. The engine I bought for mine is just outstanding, as is the rear pullie setup... and the list goes on. Looking forward to when you start the late J. You’d nail it.

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2 years 4 months ago #149 by Bishop
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Busy working on the basic shape of the transmission and ignoring the other bits. And filling fuel tanks

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Fuel tanks joined and filled awaiting sanding and more filling



Transmission shapes under construction. The gear box is the rectangular box (obviously), and the transmission is the bunch of tubes.





I’ll add all the details, but most will vanish under the large cover that forms the base for the radio stack.

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2 years 3 months ago #150 by Bishop
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So little to show for a couple of day’s work, each section once it’s added needs refining before the next layer goes on. The main thing now is that I have the two sections the lengths I want them and in the right spots to be matched properly when it comes to gluing them together. As can be seen there are mountains of details to add, and as I do this work I realise more and more the need to learn to cast things. I could just be making moods of the Trumpeter parts and using casts, but ... it would actually be really helpful with small parts to be used in the interior decorating so I might just get to and learn. Next up the missing sides of the forward section. The inner sloping sides are in place already

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