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2 years 7 months ago #61 by Andrew
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Looking good Tony B)

I've just picked up the Trumpeter 1/16 Panzer IV Ausf J. I can scan and email you a copy of the instructions if that would be any help to you?

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2 years 7 months ago #62 by Bishop
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grunzter wrote: More awesome big scale work!
At some time could you post a picture of all your 1/16 scale beasts, I'm loosing count :P


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Now that's really funny. I was just thinking that I should start a gallery thread. They have bred like rabbits to be honest.

Andrew, that is the best news I've heard. The main thin I need is dimensions and now you have a whole bunch of them. Megedo put me on to AFV Modeler for the Tiger ii. He also does some wonderful Pz IV resin as well stemming, as with the Tiger ii, from his Pz IV builds. Well worth a look so you can get the best out of the kit.

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2 years 7 months ago - 2 years 7 months ago #63 by Andrew
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Yes, David Parker has a dedicated 1/16 Panzer IV facebook page that I have just joined.

I asked about his accurate pipework the other day, it turns out he very rarely uses styrene tube, sticks to styrene rod bent over a tea candle.

Been looking at aftermarket. Geez, I can see Aber agents getting a chunk of my $ in the next several months :lol:

I haven't unboxed it yet. Let me know what measurements you need B)


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2 years 7 months ago #64 by Bishop
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Ah, I was about to ask which one. NICE NICE NICE. This is the version I'm going for. If I had the money I'd actually buy one of these as they are in stock at BNA. Still I can have fun with the HL one and I have a few others to work on without spending any more money. I'd love this kit just for the various schurzen. The engine I've just made is to replace the very chunky one provided by the kit. Unlike the Trumpeter Tiger ii kit engine, which is a beauty, this is a bit more ordinary. David's extras for the kit are well worth it, hence it is worth the visit to the AFV Modeller site. Welcome to the rather large world of 1:16. It is hard to go back to the small stuff once you enter here. I can't wait for you to make a start on it.

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2 years 7 months ago #65 by Gary
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Very nice work Tony as always you manage to make these colossal kits look like the real thing.
If we're all showing off our big boys toys I've got one of these beasties in the stash.




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2 years 7 months ago #66 by Bishop
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A nice mid production. You could do everything from Otto Carius, to the SS in Normandy (as per the box art), with this.

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2 years 7 months ago #67 by Gary
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Yeah I managed to score some 1/16 Verlinden Panzer crew for it as well, not 100% sure of their unit though.



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2 years 7 months ago #68 by Bishop
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If they're the figures I'm thinking of they're SS. SS style panzer wraps etc. They're also really 1:15 scale so on the large side, but still believable. I have the Wittmann figure from the Tiger I still hanging around. I was going to use him in something, but he never got beyond a brown undercoat.

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2 years 7 months ago #69 by Bishop
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An update. Lots of things done this week. These shots show the drive train finally in place with everybody joining up with everybody else at the correct level. I've decided that what you can't see will just be hinted at. There will be enough extra detail in the Tigers for me to worried about it here too.








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2 years 7 months ago #70 by Bishop
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More of the same, the L shaped mess of a tube is the cooling tube from the transmission to the external vent seen on the outside of the hull beside the driver.








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2 years 7 months ago #71 by Bishop
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Two more shots and some more up to date shots of the now finished transmission








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2 years 7 months ago #72 by Bishop
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One more final shot of the Duplo become transmission and three shots of a very sad story with a happy ending.



The sad story was that I'd made a large mistake with the hole for the turret (way too wide), and only discovered this when I placed the hull top on the hull to admire the interior within. I went back and remeasured and discovered that I was way out, but could easily fix the problem. The last shot shows everything working as it should. So glad I found this before beginning the turret interior.






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2 years 7 months ago #73 by Bishop
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The final shots show the cooling pipe being cut and bent to fit the forward bulkhead that it attached to the pillar seen at front of the fuel tanks. This bulkhead is not the correct shape, but this won't actually fit within the HL upper hull so I've used poetic license to represent it. It can't be seen anyway. It would normally have a kink either side to allow for the turret ring and extends beyond the hull into the hull areas that hang over the top of the fenders. These normally hollow areas contain ammunition boxes, but are filled in on the HL upper hull. This will make it easier to do the ammo cases, but means that some accuracy will go out the door.







The final shot shows the almost complete firewall. The hatches now just need latches put in place.

It is nice to make some progress on this. I'm now starting to enjoy it. The next bit will be the final drive and drum assemblies. These I am not looking forward to at all. They are the most complicated parts in any Panzer. Poopies!!!!

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2 years 7 months ago #74 by Bishop
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Discovered today that the transmission was wrong, being too early a configuration for the final J. It is adjusted now so I've moved on to the steering brakes. The basic shape is completed for the drums themselves thank goodness so I have to add the front section of each that transfers power from the transmission. The detailing of all this will be the real nightmare. Photos tomorrow.

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2 years 7 months ago #75 by Bishop
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A post I hope from the iPhone because I had everything in place just sitting right and couldn't get to the camera.

This shows the drive cogs, final drive and transmission all connected.




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2 years 7 months ago #76 by Bishop
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Gracious, it actually worked!!

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2 years 7 months ago #77 by Tiger
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Watching on here in amazement at your knowledge and detail of these builds you are doing.
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2 years 7 months ago #78 by Bishop
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The drums are just starting to take shape and the transmission is finished.






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2 years 7 months ago #79 by Maarten
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incredible scratching !!

'' I could sense things were about to kick off, so I got out of there !''


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2 years 7 months ago #80 by Bishop
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Many thanks. I confess I'm scratching my head at the moment as I have to make 12 pentagonal "taps" used to adjust the brakes, 6 for each brake, and they're impossibly small as they are essentially 5 loops joined around a central hub, looking just like tap handles. I have no idea how to make them at all. I can't even find after market ones, or even where I'd buy them from Trumpeter. The steering units are ridiculously complicated. The rest of the interior is just plain easy compared. Time to sleep.

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2 years 7 months ago - 2 years 7 months ago #81 by Maarten
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Ask Andrew for the sprue letter / number He has the Kit .

Here you can get spare parts .

www.aliexpress.com/store/group/PARTS/197...05-200007206,20705-4

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2 years 7 months ago #82 by Bishop
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That's glorious, I can get a few things for the prototype Tiger too. I'll have to check with Andrew. I could see the taps on any available spru, but I was only having a quick look.

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2 years 7 months ago #83 by Bishop
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Andrew, PM sent

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2 years 7 months ago #84 by Andrew
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Hey Tony, sorry for the slow reply

This pic will help. Looks like you need sprue J x2 to provide these parts


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2 years 7 months ago #85 by Bishop
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Many thanks. I also need way more taps than I thought. There are another four each side.

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2 years 7 months ago #86 by Andrew
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Our scanner is kaputt at the moment. I can go to my dads and scan the complete instruction manual for you? Gives you something to cross reference

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2 years 7 months ago #87 by Bishop
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Believe it or not. J spru is not listed for sale, but there are a few others I'll grab. Still back square one, even the instructions are a huge help. Many thanks Andrew

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2 years 7 months ago #88 by Bishop
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Take it back, I think I found them, but need to order 5 of the spru to get them all, and a complete set of wheels and so forth. Groan!! I could actually pick a lot of bits for both the Pz IV and the prototype Tiger ii. Wish I had the money (same as everyone lol).

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2 years 7 months ago #89 by Bishop
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Hi Andrew

Could you measure the width and height of the bracket that protrudes from the front top of the steering bracket drums (one each side of the drum with the connecting rod that holds the steering arms please?

Irony of ironies, I ordered various sprus from the site so have some very helpful bits, but not the taps as I ran out of cash. You can't actually see these with the top on so I'll use some fill ins that suggest something is there. Just don't look closely.

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2 years 6 months ago #90 by Bishop
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An initial coat of paint for the transmission and more details for the steering brakes. The transmission is done in an ancient Tamiya field blue so is drying semi gloss which is perfect. Weathering will dirty it all up nicely and hide a multitude of sins.






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