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Heng Long 1:16 Tiger II makeover 4 years 1 month ago #121

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It's really impressive scratch work mate. Something that I wouldn't even consider attempting myself.
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:woohoo: Top work Tony!

My kind of modeler...... using everything you can find in and around the house.
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That's the great fun of it. Very glad of the Evergreen plastic tonight though. I've made the teeth for the turret ring. They all need to be cleaned up and made the same length. I had enough and they fitted perfectly into the circle. I've also had a major win withe the basket. I certain plastic container with olives within has now been cut up and will form the foundation I needed. Another perfect fit thankfully. It won't look anything like it did earlier this afternoon once completed. Photos tomorrow when the teeth are done.

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Will you be making ammo racks in the rear of the turret Tony?

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Yep, the lot. The question of shells has been in the back of my mind since last night actually. I need to post photos, hopefully tonight. I shall see how we progress.

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These show everything in various stages of mock up. I've had to reglue the suspension arms to the base of the turret basket because, of course :angry: CA doesn't glue to the smooth plastic from the container. 2 part epoxy does though :evil: The Duplo has come out of hiding to act as the frame for the turret. The Tamiya Tiger hull floor has been ripped out (almost), so that I can get the dimensions for the shell racks. It will live :lol: I now need to go and buy the correct plastic for their construction. I also need to convert the 1:35 dimensions to 1:16... tomorrow. I should add that the front suspension arm for the turret basket is in fact two pipes, so I will get the correct dimensions, or at least close enough and attach the pipes to the clear plastic frame with two part epoxy :whistle: and then remove the unwanted middle section. I'm using the frame so as to keep the correct dimensions. It would be easy enough to make everything in suitable plastic, but that would require redoing all the measurements and life is too short.





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Most of the teeth will be unseen from inside the turret, but will all be seen when looking up from underneath. A protective cover sheet keeps them and the crew from each other.
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Do like the use of the Duplo there... that does give me ideas now as my sons have heaps of it, and lego :P

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How did you go about cutting the teeth on the turret ring and keeping them all a uniform size?
That appears to be an exercise in insanity right there but looks bloody good though.
I guess you need the patience of a saint!

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Its 2mm L shape Evergreen plastic. I made up a jig and cut up two lengths of it into 4mm sections and stuck them on. They're not really THAT uniform hee hee. Having discovered that the front of the basket is actually flat with holes in it I've replaced the front piece with a plastic section. It means that I've only ended up using one piece of the clear container but the whole exercise has been worth it just to get angles and lengths correct.

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This is all becoming a little complicated. As the barrel is now glued in one position it means that one has to put the breach in place by twisting it as a baby twists itself while being born. The breach needs to be "out" to get the turret basket in and out, but of course, all the details for the turret basket will need to be added while it is unattached :S Of course, some of the details will need to be added when the breach so there will be a lot of partial builds to be put together in the right order. So, the main work over the next week or two will be building all the gear for the basket and finalising the details on the breach. Then it will all go together in a wondrous fashion :whistle: Once all that is done I shall continue with the details on the turret floor. There is still the ceiling to go after that. Having got the basic shape right for the breach and the basket I'm starting to enjoy this a little better. Its rather complicated building a tank. Makes you realise how difficult it must be to design and construct a real prototype from scratch.
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That is gorgeous detail mate. I really do appreciate the level of craftsmanship in your builds. It's awesome and inspiring to watch.
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Thanks guys its a lot of fun. I'm now trying to work out what fits to what and what makes what work in the turret basket. I need a Scotch!!!

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Not much to show for the weekend, but it has been a very busy one work wise. I am forcing myself to populate the basket a piece at a time. In this case two pieces. These are the main components for the turret traverse and soon to be constructed gun elevation. They are in a very crude form at this point but I needed to get them to fit with everything else before I could proceed. Now that they are nutted out I have been able to add the central floor panels. At the top of the bell shaped traverse unit are twin cogs, one turning the other, the second engaging the teeth of the turret ring. The motor that drives everything (as per the Tiger I and Panther), is attached to the hydraulic unit below the floor via a drive shaft that comes up through the floor. This will be put together once the front part of the motor is cut down to size (the black rod thingy) and attached. This is also attached to a small motor on the gunner's side. I have actually managed to work out what all the piping is and where it should go, even without a Scotch. I've have had one since, however :lol:

It has to be said that it was a much more effective layout in this than in the Tiger I which had stuff all over the shop. The hardest problem to solve so far has been the jolly cogs on top of the traverse unit. I have had to cut a printer cog down adding two teeth at a time. There is a shot of the completed one and of the second cog ready for surgery. Tomorrow I will complete these two items and move onto the elevation unit. I have a problem, or two actually, that I will have to face at some point. How to make the two bicycle/ tractor seats for the gunner and loader. I have no idea how to make up the shapes :S

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This third photo also shows that I've cut the top part of the front section of the basket off and moved the cut out over 2mm so that everything lines up as per the real thing. The traverse unit is off center as are the cogs.
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Bicycle/ tractor seats:

Make the shape from a piece of balsa wood or other material .

You heat up a sheet of plastic and press the the balsa master in to the soft plastic

Than you get a really nice pressed steel seat look....and trim the excess off.

These are padded........... easier to make.................. if they are the correct ones ?
And far more comfortable on your back side .





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Bloody good mate. Nice tip there Marten!
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I was wondering if you re-purposed stuff for your builds. I hope you're not one of those guys who pulls apart something that is working for your families sake :D
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Sadly Maarten I think they aren't the correct seats. If they were there would be no trouble. I will hunt up some more reference pictures though. Jentz/ Doyle only depict the other style. I think the balsa master is the best way to go. Never done it before so I will get some advice before heating the plastic. That is the last job thankfully.

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grover wrote: I was wondering if you re-purposed stuff for your builds. I hope you're not one of those guys who pulls apart something that is working for your families sake :D


No, of course not. :whistle: :evil:

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Because I don't have scale bits to model this part of the build upon it is taking a long time to make a correct everything. I've changed one of the pipes on the traverse unit, I've pulled the cogs I made apart as they were too big and glued the teeth onto smaller hubs, I've adjusted the sides of the frame on the basket as they didn't cover the traverse unit properly and I've also managed to fit the whole thing together and it actually matches up to the turret ring teeth. Lots of victories, but its taken all day, well, all of the day I had. The main thing now is that I'm on the right track and everything else should be easier to fit. The first shots show it all together with glaring problems presenting themselves to be solved. The second shot and the ones that follow show the problem with the frame work. the simple solution was to create new sides that simply covered over the smaller ones. This has given the sides a better scale thickness. The traverse motor looks much better inside the frame rather than bursting out of it. The cogs are now spot on so I can detail the unit. The same goes with the motor. You can just see the beginnings of the gun elevation unit.
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Maarten, I should add that the reference shot you showed with the easy to build seat in it is actually correct. It is the commander's seat. He got a nice one, the two guys in the basket got the bicycle seats.

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Bishop wrote: I've pulled the cogs I made apart as they were too big and glued the teeth onto smaller hubs,

That wee sentence really shows the level you're prepared to go to. What else can I say except
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Looks really good again there Bishop :)
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